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Re: How to cut gun deaths by 50% overnight [Re: Jpurdue] #13936645 03/25/21 10:27 PM
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All injury deaths
Number of deaths: 246,041
Deaths per 100,000 population: 75.0
Source: National Vital Statistics System – Mortality Data (2019) via CDC WONDER

All poisoning deaths
Number of deaths: 75,797
Deaths per 100,000 population: 23.1
Source: National Vital Statistics System – Mortality Data (2019) via CDC WONDER

Motor vehicle traffic deaths
Number of deaths: 37,595
Deaths per 100,000 population: 11.5
Source: National Vital Statistics System – Mortality Data (2019) via CDC WONDER

All firearm deaths
Number of deaths: 39,707
Deaths per 100,000 population: 12.1

Source: National Vital Statistics System – Mortality Data (2019) via CDC WONDER


Mortality: Drug overdose/drug poisoning deaths
Deaths per 100,000 population: 21.5

Source: National Vital Statistics System – Mortality Data (2019) via CDC WONDER

Drug overdose deaths involving any opioid per 100,000 population: 15.2
Source: National Vital Statistics System – Mortality Data (2019) via CDC WONDER

Drug overdose deaths involving heroin per 100,000 population: 4.3
Source: National Vital Statistics System – Mortality Data (2019) via CDC WONDER



https://www.cdc.gov/nchs/fastats/injury.htm


someone please explain what part I am missing on why guns are the problem.

Re: How to cut gun deaths by 50% overnight [Re: Jpurdue] #13936686 03/25/21 10:58 PM
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Pardon me for jumping in here and saying this but somewhere this group has taken a turn away form the thread title. I'm reading to see how we can "cut the gun deaths by 50% overnight" and all I'm seeing is stories copy and pasted about some dude named Hunter. How the heck did we get here?

Re: How to cut gun deaths by 50% overnight [Re: Tsunami_1] #13936695 03/25/21 11:05 PM
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Originally Posted by Tsunami_1
Pardon me for jumping in here and saying this but somewhere this group has taken a turn away form the thread title. I'm reading to see how we can "cut the gun deaths by 50% overnight" and all I'm seeing is stories copy and pasted about some dude named Hunter. How the heck did we get here?



that was me and I am simply pointing out the fact that the dam guns are not the problem, enforcement of our current laws is pretty dam spotty and has been for a long time.
look up the prosecutions for lying on the 4473

Lying on Form 4473 is a felony punishable by up to ten year's imprisonment. For being a user of unlawful drugs in possession of a firearm, the punishment is up to five years in prison.Dec 29, 2019

Pro Tip: Don't lie on federal forms - Finney Law Firm

we currently have laws as well as questions on the 4473 form, lie on that and you are supposed to be facing felony charges, why are they not prosecuted? it would keep guns out of the hands of bad guys, wouldn't it?

going after guns/gun owners is akin to going after cars and drivers for what dui drivers cause on the hiway, stupid from the getgo.
it is not about "gun control" rather it is all about control over the populace, there is no other justifiable reason to do what the socialists are trying to do.

a disarmed society is a compliant society, see north korea, venezuala, cuba, china and a few others.

Re: How to cut gun deaths by 50% overnight [Re: Jpurdue] #13936850 03/26/21 01:09 AM
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Originally Posted by Jpurdue
They can cut gun deaths by 50% overnight if they stop counting suicides as gun violence. If folks they jump off a bridge do we call it bridge violence?

That said here's an interesting article on some other approaches that could reduce gun deaths. I know a lot of guys on here are 100% against any additional restrictions, but folks on here are not a very good sample of the broader population. That said, here's where there seems to be broad support across both parties:

1. Requiring background checks on all gun sales for all buyers (retail & private)
2. Tighter restrictions on folks with mental illness purchasing guns
3. Nationwide ban on the sale of guns to people convicted of violent crimes
4. Barring gun purchases by people on no-fly or watch lists

The common theme of the items above is that it restricts bad users, not the actual weapons.

https://www.nytimes.com/interactive...-reduce-shootings.html?auth=login-google


That all sounds great until the government decides church-goers, Trump voters, home-schoolers, unvaccinated people, etc have a “mental illness” or need to be on a “watch list.”
They basically already say that now.
Democrats and anti-gun politicians don’t care about stopping violence; they care about disarming those that stand in their way of a total authoritarian takeover. If you give an inch, they take away your job, freedom, and over a year of your life and still counting.
The “mass shootings” will continue to intensify until they sway public opinion. We just showed them this past year how easily we can be scared into submission.

Last edited by K3913; 03/26/21 01:14 AM.
Re: How to cut gun deaths by 50% overnight [Re: Jpurdue] #13936912 03/26/21 01:57 AM
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On a side note on the gun suicide thing. If you use a gun to kill yourself, and the bullet goes through the roof of the car, the insurance company totals out the car.


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