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Re: Sal survival rate for Ivie [Re: Jarrett Latta] #13924004 03/15/21 10:24 PM
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I’m no biologist but I would wager a lot of money that taking 9 fish out of a lake the size of Ivie caused absolutely no harm at all hell Toledo bend guys been keeping limits of bass for years don’t matter what size it is it’s going in the grease!

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Re: Sal survival rate for Ivie [Re: Jarrett Latta] #13924006 03/15/21 10:32 PM
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On the chance I get one. Take a pic and weigh her, then put her back. Good enough for me. If someone wants to turn theirs in that's fine too. It's a choice. Totally on the angler.

Re: Sal survival rate for Ivie [Re: Jarrett Latta] #13924085 03/15/21 11:39 PM
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Well, when I catch one....errrrr....I don’t fish any lakes that have SAL bass in them. Never mind. frown

Re: Sal survival rate for Ivie [Re: Jarrett Latta] #13924091 03/15/21 11:43 PM
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Originally Posted by Skeeter John





Bockscar is making reasonable, well thought out posts. Not sure why people can't express their opinions without being harassed.


thank you sir! just trying to see things objectively.





I know we live in snowflake world now, but it’s called a “discussion”. He makes a comment and someone makes a rebuttal. If you see a harassment, then well.....

Dave Mercer made the exact same comment, people explained to him the negatives/positives. Neither Dave or Bockscar are crying about the discussion.[/quote]

In his defense....it did take me a long time to get a straight answer 😂

and dont assume i wasnt crying. im very in tune with my feelings, and liable to cry at any moment! 🤔

Re: Sal survival rate for Ivie [Re: Jarrett Latta] #13924092 03/15/21 11:43 PM
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Originally Posted by sprigsss
Catching a sharelunker, snapping a picture, and quickly releasing is easy to say for those that have caught multiple DD fish.



I do question why people run to the marina with every 7,8 or 9 lb fish for a certified weight. However, I ran into a guy at Sandy Beach at P.K. one year that had a fish on a stringer that he just knew was the next lake record. I told him I had a scale if he wanted to get a weight before we started calling people. I grabbed the scale and when he lifted the fish out of the water, I knew this fish wasn't over 8 lbs. You would have thought his dog just died when I told him it was probably a heavy 7 and the scale read 7+ lbs. That man was convinced he had a 15+lb fish.


I think that was solidly debunked when someone explained that fish that size dont need to be weighed on official scales like the giant ones do. im sure some might do that...but I think people that know whats up arent doing that kinda thing.



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Let's include tournament fish. Over the weekend there were multiple 20 and 30 pound stingers weighed in. In some cases your looking at 6,7 and 8 pound average per fish. These fish are in a livewell for up too 8 hours. 17 Share a Lunker's and 1 has died.. And let's say 200 bass between 6 and 10 pounds. Are we 100% certain that they are all surviving. I realize they are smaller fish. But some of the 7 and 8 and 9 pound fish just don't grow to be over 13. Me personally I don't have a problem either way. I actually think catch and release has gone to far. Any angler has a right to do whatever he or she wants with that fish.


great point and why this seems like a "throwing stones in glass houses" argument for all the negative for the sharelunker people. I dont go PETA....but im not a fan of tournament fishing when it comes to conservation. Lots of tourneys happen during the spawn, and we can talk till we are blue in the face about how that can have a negative effect on a fishery...but thats a separate discussion. I think a lot of you's are tourney folk....so just seems a little hypocritical and rabble rousing to talk down on the sharelunker program.

I just feel you all need some perspective, and consider what its like in a state that doesnt care about bass fishing very much if at all (new mexico for example, and I hear colorado too). I get it sucks to see bigs pulled out of the water....but if we are being real, were the locals gonna catch them? But all those big fish would never even be around and alive to be caught if it wasnt for TP&W and programs like the sharelunker program. And no no one is perfect....but the sharelunker people know what they are doing....and ivie daily is a current running example of this....in my opinon.

Re: Sal survival rate for Ivie [Re: jiggmann] #13924104 03/15/21 11:53 PM
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Originally Posted by jiggmann
I’m no biologist but I would wager a lot of money that taking 9 fish out of a lake the size of Ivie caused absolutely no harm at all hell Toledo bend guys been keeping limits of bass for years don’t matter what size it is it’s going in the grease!


I’ve never fished TB but seen plenty of threads with guys complaining about the amount of fish being taken and the bass population suffering. Do a Toledo Bend search and see for yourself.

Re: Sal survival rate for Ivie [Re: Jarrett Latta] #13924162 03/16/21 12:34 AM
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The chance of natural morality for a bass is about 25% on any given year. Only 1 out of 17 dying is pretty darn great in my book. Frankly they may have a better chance surviving in Athens than in the wild. I'm sure they are getting all kinds of treatments and the best care biologists can provide. Zero doubt in my mind the program is a net positive to our fisheries. I do wonder if at some point they have enough of them that continuing to bring them in starts to diminish the returns.


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Re: Sal survival rate for Ivie [Re: Jarrett Latta] #13924164 03/16/21 12:35 AM
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There have been 17 sharelunkers this year?

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Originally Posted by Jpurdue
The chance of natural morality for a bass is about 25% on any given year. Only 1 out of 17 dying is pretty darn great in my book. Frankly they may have a better chance surviving in Athens than in the wild. I'm sure they are getting all kinds of treatments and the best care biologists can provide. Zero doubt in my mind the program is a net positive to our fisheries. I do wonder if at some point they have enough of them that continuing to bring them in starts to diminish the returns.


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Re: Sal survival rate for Ivie [Re: Darin S.] #13924166 03/16/21 12:37 AM
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Originally Posted by jiggmann
I’m no biologist but I would wager a lot of money that taking 9 fish out of a lake the size of Ivie caused absolutely no harm at all hell Toledo bend guys been keeping limits of bass for years don’t matter what size it is it’s going in the grease!


I’ve never fished TB but seen plenty of threads with guys complaining about the amount of fish being taken and the bass population suffering. Do a Toledo Bend search and see for yourself.


Man that place is crazy. It's the only lake in Texas where you'll see coastal rope stringers towed behind boats full of bass. 3 out of 4 boats out there keep everything

Re: Sal survival rate for Ivie [Re: Jarrett Latta] #13924168 03/16/21 12:39 AM
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Originally Posted by Jarrett Latta
There have been 17 sharelunkers this year?


just scrolled their facebook. Josh jones one was #591 and they are already on 602. So yea....sounds like 17 sharelunkers this year. Kinda seems like TP&W are doing a good job 🤷‍♂️

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Originally Posted by Jpurdue
The chance of natural morality for a bass is about 25% on any given year. Only 1 out of 17 dying is pretty darn great in my book. Frankly they may have a better chance surviving in Athens than in the wild. I'm sure they are getting all kinds of treatments and the best care biologists can provide. Zero doubt in my mind the program is a net positive to our fisheries. I do wonder if at some point they have enough of them that continuing to bring them in starts to diminish the returns.



There’s the other high fence pro/sharealunker apologist! You must have been at CB the last couple of days!

Curious to know where you get your percentages and zero doubts and so on? roflmao

Re: Sal survival rate for Ivie [Re: Jarrett Latta] #13924256 03/16/21 02:18 AM
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Originally Posted by Jarrett Latta
There have been 17 sharelunkers this year?



I was wondering the same. I just copy and pasted. Dont shoot the messenger.

Re: Sal survival rate for Ivie [Re: Jarrett Latta] #13924267 03/16/21 02:24 AM
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Thanks TP&W. Greatly appreciate you and all you do to make Texas the greatest bass fishing state in the nation! We are so blessed to have you here in Texas.


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Originally Posted by Frank the Tank
Thanks TP&W. Greatly appreciate you and all you do to make Texas the greatest bass fishing state in the nation! We are so blessed to have you here in Texas.

Since we know TPWD doesn’t read this, you get one of these! stir
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