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TTO vs Champs payouts....
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03/07/21 05:25 PM
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So was thumbing through the Facebook yesterday and saw a post talking about a team trial event and how well it paid. Started doing a little research and was shocked. Champs is really the only thing to compare it to, but look at TTO with their payout. How can they payout more than they take in? Sponsor dollars? I’d think champs has similar if not more sponsor dollars. Look at the 2nd,3rd and 4th place payout based on a similar field. Interesting to say the least. Not doing this to say ones better than the other, but just amazes me at how TTO is paying their anglers more than they take in. For simple math just calculating entry free x entries I know the payout can change since Bass Champs counts prizes on their website and TTO doesn’t have that info but has contingency and prizes as well. TTO Fork Entries: 177 Collected $49k PB- $54k Champs Belton Entries:189 Collected 61k PB- $51250
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Re: TTO vs Champs payouts....
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03/07/21 05:50 PM
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Both are great trails and exceptionally well run.
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Re: TTO vs Champs payouts....
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03/07/21 06:12 PM
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Both are great trails and exceptionally well run. Absolutely agree I’ve fished both and both were top notch. I guess I’m just surprised by the payout with TTO
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Re: TTO vs Champs payouts....
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03/07/21 06:13 PM
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Can't ask for much better than that. I'm seeing 97% payback on the Basschamps site. Plus they have two sweet boats at their championship.
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Re: TTO vs Champs payouts....
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03/07/21 06:23 PM
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Both are great trails and exceptionally well run. Absolutely agree I’ve fished both and both were top notch. I guess I’m just surprised by the payout with TTO The one thing your missing here is that total includes bonuses. Many go unclaimed due to not qualifying for them. If you look at those totals week after week they will change constantly.
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Re: TTO vs Champs payouts....
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03/07/21 06:40 PM
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Both are great trails and exceptionally well run. Absolutely agree I’ve fished both and both were top notch. I guess I’m just surprised by the payout with TTO The one thing your missing here is that total includes bonuses. Many go unclaimed due to not qualifying for them. If you look at those totals week after week they will change constantly. Are you saying the money not paid out at champs is used for the championship? Or Saying champs pays out better for the field?
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Re: TTO vs Champs payouts....
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03/07/21 06:43 PM
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leethefishking
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Both are great trails and exceptionally well run. Absolutely agree I’ve fished both and both were top notch. I guess I’m just surprised by the payout with TTO The one thing your missing here is that total includes bonuses. Many go unclaimed due to not qualifying for them. If you look at those totals week after week they will change constantly. Are you saying the money not paid out at champs is used for the championship? Or Saying champs pays out better for the field? Bonus money counts toward total. Unclaimed is unclaimed since its third party money. It’s not saved because it’s not theirs. They encourage people to do what they can to qualify for bonuses but that is still up to the individual anglers.
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Re: TTO vs Champs payouts....
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03/07/21 06:49 PM
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Can't ask for much better than that. I'm seeing 97% payback on the Basschamps site. Plus they have two sweet boats at their championship. Their championship is definitely nice, but how many anglers competing for those 2 boats? Never said bass champs doesn’t pay well, just saying TTO is honestly paying well throughout the field on a $220 entry without side pot. They have a nice championship too tho, 60 anglers competing for 20 grand first and 15 grand second is pretty dang good Always good to have options as a angler for sure
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Re: TTO vs Champs payouts....
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03/07/21 07:18 PM
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Can't ask for much better than that. I'm seeing 97% payback on the Basschamps site. Plus they have two sweet boats at their championship. Their championship is definitely nice, but how many anglers competing for those 2 boats? Never said bass champs doesn’t pay well, just saying TTO is honestly paying well throughout the field on a $220 entry without side pot. They have a nice championship too tho, 60 anglers competing for 20 grand first and 15 grand second is pretty dang good Always good to have options as a angler for sure There is a side pot
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Re: TTO vs Champs payouts....
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03/07/21 07:33 PM
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Can't ask for much better than that. I'm seeing 97% payback on the Basschamps site. Plus they have two sweet boats at their championship. Their championship is definitely nice, but how many anglers competing for those 2 boats? Never said bass champs doesn’t pay well, just saying TTO is honestly paying well throughout the field on a $220 entry without side pot. They have a nice championship too tho, 60 anglers competing for 20 grand first and 15 grand second is pretty dang good Always good to have options as a angler for sure There is a side pot I know, I meant The entry is $220 if you don’t get into the side pot for a chance at 15 grand
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Re: TTO vs Champs payouts....
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03/07/21 11:11 PM
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You guys were just the only thing to compare to in terms of size for Texas. Never claimed yalls championship didn’t pay well. My post was to highlight the payout on a TTO regular season event and how I was shocked they paid out more than they took in. Not a dig as bass champs. Different organizations run different ways, and that’s the wonderful thing about fishing, people have options
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Re: TTO vs Champs payouts....
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03/08/21 02:19 AM
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Both are great trails.
Basschamps has had tournaments in the past where they paid out more then they took in as well. TTO’s first place prize is sponsored money and all entry fees go to the remaining payouts.
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Re: TTO vs Champs payouts....
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03/08/21 02:41 AM
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Both are great trails.
Basschamps has had tournaments in the past where they paid out more then they took in as well. TTO’s first place prize is sponsored money and all entry fees go to the remaining payouts.
Agree. And that makes sense thanks! That explains the great payout for the remaining places
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Re: TTO vs Champs payouts....
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03/08/21 02:44 AM
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So was thumbing through the Facebook yesterday and saw a post talking about a team trial event and how well it paid. Started doing a little research and was shocked. Champs is really the only thing to compare it to, but look at TTO with their payout. How can they payout more than they take in? Sponsor dollars? I’d think champs has similar if not more sponsor dollars. Look at the 2nd,3rd and 4th place payout based on a similar field. Interesting to say the least. Not doing this to say ones better than the other, but just amazes me at how TTO is paying their anglers more than they take in.
For simple math just calculating entry free x entries I know the payout can change since Bass Champs counts prizes on their website and TTO doesn’t have that info but has contingency and prizes as well. TTO Fork Entries: 177 Collected $49k PB- $54k
Champs Belton Entries:189 Collected 61k PB- $51250 I see you chose not to compare the Champs @ Fork to the TTO @ Fork, why is that. They were at the same lake a week apart. I suspect If you broke out the sponsor money @TTO that has built in but isn’t visible, it’s likely closer in percentages. I looked at the ‘20 TTO championship (congrats Joe an Joel) and looks like Champs pays more for just 2nd place at their championship than the whole TTO field got paid for that tournament. I didn’t pull out a calculator, but looked like champs paid at least $1000 out to 43 places. TTO paid $1000 to 13th and $500 at 22nd. Hard to just look at percentages as to who has the better payout. I guess if you finish in the money I rather be fishing Champs, and if you aren’t in the money they both stink.
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