I think what we are going to see is instead of a small group of fish being really pressured in our lakes, a much larger population of fish will now be pressured. I think we are seeing it have great success now, but this will make our lakes tougher to fish.

Yep. People always wanting to regulate boat length, boat type, HP, off limits, and lures used etc. Next year it will be something else someone wants to limit. You nailed it, many will never buy or if they do buy will not take time to learn it.

I completely agree with you on that. But what livescoping is, is not fishing. Its like playing Xbox. Though its very fun, its making guys look like unbelievable anglers that are in reality, just average. Which means, you take livescope away from them in a tournament. They have to actually fish the "True" conditions of the lake. Make adjustments due to conditions.
If you watched what Walters did on Fork with it. He followed 1 fish around for almost an hour messing with it til it bit. Basically "sight fishing".

I fell like since it's available to everybody, they shouldn't ban it from tournaments. just my 0.02

Its more hunting than fishing.

I had a big eloquent response ready, and shotgun beat me to it. Agree 100%

Gussy just went wire to wire and beat Walters by 35 pounds using 2D and down imaging..... you still have to find the fish, understand the technology enough to know exactly what you’re looking at(something 90 percent of anglers won’t do) and make the necessary adjustments to catch said fish. This is being blown out of proportion because of what just happened on Ivie and quite frankly the odds are overwhelming that we won’t see that again for a long time, maybe ever. It was a perfect storm. I don’t know Derrick Mundy but every picture I’ve seen has been nothing but humminbird graphs on his boat. When’s the last time we saw someone do what he did? And he did that on a lake that gets exponentially more pressure than Ivie did a month ago. I’m sure someone on here knows Brian Shook and Danny Iles, were they using livescope when they caught 50 pounds in TTT? Looked to me like nothing but Lowrance on their boats but I couldn’t tell. Livescope is another tool in the box.

I saw that article. But it said he saw 2 fish follow. Then caught them on a trap and jerkbait. He didn't say he saw all the fish he caught. I wouldn't call the as live scope is dominating. And I haven't seen anything that said the leaders are using live scope in the Toyota series

Walters is definitely using it, the guy leading the Toyota all I could find it says he is catching them on an A-rig backed off the dam in deeper water, I would guess its very likely he's scoping them too.



I am more referring to Tour and AAA events, the Gussy deal yeah but he was also chocking his trolling motor to look at those fish, the lower level tournaments your referring too (never heard any of those guys names) it will trickle down eventually but I wouldn't expect those to be as affected yet.

So you are just guessing. That's all I was trying to find out. Your assuming Walters is catching all of his fish using it because of who he is. You are assuming the Toyota series leader is catching all his using it because he is throwing an arig

Redcrest was just won with it, Fork elite series was won with it, not just referring to the two AAA events going on today.

I think if you gave a lie detector to all of the Elite/MLF anglers, 100% would say you cannot 'consistently' compete without it. Can you win and cash a check here and there - yes, for now. As these guys get better and better with it, you will not. We have already heard guys like Swindle and BMP say that you have no chance up north without it. It will only become more necessary. Im not saying it should be banned, but it is the reality.

My biggest gripe is the inconsistency. This was BASS' quote regarding banning the Alabama Rig “It’s a legitimate and ethical way to catch fish, but we hold professional anglers to a higher standard,” said David Precht, a spokesman for BASS. “Their argument — and I want to emphasize it’s not our argument — the anglers feel that sometimes it can be too effective and it takes away some of the skill in what is a traditional tournament.

It's just a tool, you got to learn how to use it, and then you got to make them want to eat it at times. And if you can't make em eat it you got to move on. You can literally pull up to a school of fish, drop the bait down to them and they won't eat it. Those situations will just humble you. Yes you are sight fishing, but all of you have seen those days when the fish on the bed will just not bite. When you fish a 8 hour tournament and you have been fishing for 5 hours and have one small keeper in the livewell and you just stumble on a huge bass on a bed and spend 2 hours trying to catch that one bass what good does it do you to keep fishing fishing for him if you run out of time? And then there's the time when you see the fish, you cast to it and he smashes it. What livescope does is cut down 350 cast of which 95% are to areas where there are no fish to 50 casts where the fish are. Another frustrating thing is when the fish moves out of the cone of view, the amount of time you spend looking for the fish out weighs the casting. Your neck gets sore from looking down. I've raised mine up 28" in the air because of it. It looks funny it's so high in the air. I've been to several crappie seminars and they are so worried the population is going to be wiped out. I can promise you there are more fish out there that don't bite your lures than there are that will. It's fishing with a better sonar, it's not catching. You guys who are going out and buying it thinking your are going to smash them are in for a rude awakening. It's just not as simple as you think. Nothing, is better than than time on the water, and you all know that, what you all saw on Ivey two weeks ago was special, those guys have about 2 years of experience using livescope and have numerous trips with failures that you don't see.

Dubee Elite at Fork in November and MLF Redcrest in February

MLF 1st, 2nd, 3rd and 4th using the forward facing sonar looking at brush piles.

Elite looking into standing timber to pick out the best fish for 105 lbs

I am not against it; am looking to get my own setup as I type. But, I do anticipate the roar will get very loud when one of these guys wins by catching bedding fish in muddy water using it.