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Re: Freeze damage to plants/trees
[Re: Curt0407]
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02/26/21 03:33 PM
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TexDawg
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Two loripitalum have turned completely brown, they look to be tits up
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Re: Freeze damage to plants/trees
[Re: Curt0407]
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02/26/21 03:36 PM
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Derek ๐
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I got some that look a little toasty. I only have a handful that I care if they make it or not. We shall see in a few weeks.
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Re: Freeze damage to plants/trees
[Re: Curt0407]
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02/26/21 03:37 PM
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My yard took a beating...we have cactus that are practically wilted to nothing, some of the really nice plants we have are dead and yellowing, and we have a live oak not looking too good.
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Re: Freeze damage to plants/trees
[Re: Curt0407]
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02/26/21 03:41 PM
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Mine are hurting. Not sure how bad yet...
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Re: Freeze damage to plants/trees
[Re: Curt0407]
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02/26/21 03:58 PM
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flee fly
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Palm trees took it on the chin, lots of people shelled out some serious cash to have them around their pools
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Re: Freeze damage to plants/trees
[Re: flee fly]
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02/26/21 04:07 PM
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Palm trees took it on the chin, lots of people shelled out some serious cash to have them around their pools Palm trees do not like the cold no sir. Even in Vegas they would wrap them if temps were going to get below 30 or so. Which was rare but happened. Those were mexican fan palms, others might be a bit more cold hardy but as a group of trees.... yeah they dont like cold at all. Shocking info I know.
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Re: Freeze damage to plants/trees
[Re: Curt0407]
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02/26/21 04:49 PM
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I came across this on FB the other day. Seemed like some good info. He's posted some more since.
I'll make a different freeze damage post each day on a different plant species until all is green and we forget it ever happened! We'll start with azaleas which took a big hit in Tyler and East Texas. All blooms are most likely lost on most varieties, certainly on Southern Indicas. Most foliage is dead too, except on a very few varieties and those protected or in select microclimates. There will be all kinds of stem damage I imagine but there is nothing to do now except wait and see where they resprout from, most likely the ground or below what was the snow line which insulated them. Many stems will crack but I'd wait and do all the cutting at the same time when it's obvious what is alive and what isn't. I bet many of them freeze to the ground but sprout from the lower crown. Here's more: Dealing with Freeze Damage on Plants (Greg Grant, February 24, 2021)
There is no way of currently knowing the extent of the damage or whether your plants will survive or not. It will take several months to know, if or when, they start to resprout.
1. Evergreen Woody Shrubs, Vines, Trees, and Groundcovers (Asian jasmine, azalaeas, camellias, confederate jasmine, eleagnus, fatsia, fig ivy, gardenias, Indian hawthorns, ligustrum, loquats, loropetalum, oleander, pittosporum, privet, roses, sasanquas, sweet olive, Texas sage, wax myrtle, etc.): Wait until they start to resprout from the existing stems or the ground, then cut away dead and leave the living. There will most likely be no blooms this year and all old foliage will most likely fall off. Many of these plants are from somewhat subtropical Asia and simply arenโt used to zero degrees. Most broadleaf evergreens prefer milder climates while narrow leafed evergreens are more adapted to colder climates.
2. Palm Trees and Sago Palms: Most will be damaged or dead but do nothing but cut off the dead fronds for now. It will take months to see if they resprout. Historically the only palms reliably cold hardy here in northeast Texas and the only ones to survive zero degrees in the 1980s were Mexican/Texas sabal palms, Brazoria palms, dwarf palmettos, and the majority of windmill palms. Sagos arenโt true palms and are the least cold hardy.
3. Tropicals, perennials, annuals, cannas, bananas, crinums, gingers, ligularia, phlox, salvias, Turk's cap, etc.: Cut away the dead mush (wait until April 1 if you can stand it).
4. St. Augustine and Centipede lawns: There will possibly be dead areas and freeze damage. Mow as normal but avoid pre-emergent herbicides. Do not fertilize until nights are warmer in mid-April and do not water until June, July, and August, once per week.
5. Crapemyrtles: They will be different amounts of damage on different cultivars in different microclimates. Donโt do anything until they start to sprout then cut back to living, even it itโs at the ground. They will grow back vigorously. In the 1980s Lagerstroemia fauriei froze and died, โNatchezโ and many hybrids froze to the ground, and there were varying degrees of damage to most older indica cultivars.
6. Fruit trees: Most are cold hardy except pomegranates, olives, and figs which will have varying degrees of damage. Once again, do nothing for now and prune back to living when they sprout. Open flowers and fat buds on peaches and pears froze.
7. If plants are green and not withered, they are most likely fine. It all has to do with their evolutionary and geographical genetics as to whether they can survive zero degrees.
8. Most deciduous plants will be fine although they may have lost their bloom buds. Mophead and lace cap hydrangeas may have different degrees of damage. Once again, only prune away what is dead once they sprout. Oakleafs are probably fine.
9. Most conifers will be fine.
10. Most bulbs, corms, rhizomes, etc. should survive since they were under ground and under snow.
11. Live oaks: All foliage will be lost which would have be lost when the new foliage came out in spring anyway. There however many be varying degrees of damage including death like there was in Dallas during the 1980s when all the bark eventually popped off, but once again nothing you can do right now but take a cold tater and wait. Live oaks are coastal trees not used to zero degree weather.
12. Herbs: Many herbs like rosemary and lavender will be dead and will need to be replaced, certainly those in pots which are always less cold hardy than those in the ground. Some rosemary cultivars are more cold hardy than others but very few can survive zero degrees. Most herbs are Mediterranean and prefer mild winters and dry soils.
There is absolutely nothing you can do to speed up this freeze damage/healing process. Watering, pruning, or fertilizing wonโt make it happen any quicker. The solution is warm nights, warm days, and longer day lengths. Once the plants start to grow (or not), we will know the answer and what parts to cut away or which plants to replace. Some damage doesnโt show up for months and some plants that appear dead come back to life from the root system. Some plants with green stems like roses will show whatโs dead even quicker and can be cut back sooner.
For more information on dealing with the freeze damage, visit the Aggie Horticulture Facebook page, the Smith County Master Gardener Facebook page, and Neil Sperryโs GARDENS Facebook page.
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Re: Freeze damage to plants/trees
[Re: Curt0407]
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02/26/21 05:12 PM
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Good info Nocona. Thanks.
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Re: Freeze damage to plants/trees
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02/26/21 05:24 PM
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It seems Wood and Smith County had quite a bit more frost damage than other East Texas counties. The Forest Service is currently evaluating the area for damage, both physical and health wise.
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Re: Freeze damage to plants/trees
[Re: flee fly]
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02/26/21 07:51 PM
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Palm trees took it on the chin, lots of people shelled out some serious cash to have them around their pools We spent a good chunk of change on our palm trees. Out of eight original queen palms we were down to two until this freeze. The last two are getting cut down today as they will not make it. We have several cold hardy palms that never had issues in the past that look burnt but still generally green.
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Re: Freeze damage to plants/trees
[Re: Curt0407]
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02/26/21 08:03 PM
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I wish it would have killed all my bermuda so I can cut it out and start over.
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Re: Freeze damage to plants/trees
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02/26/21 09:01 PM
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All our pots are in the garage and we may have lost two Crown-of-Thorns, four hibiscus, a couple of crotons and a few succulents.
The 14ft Norfolk pine outside bought the big one as well as all of our bird-of-paradise. All of our prickly pears didn't make it either. Neither did our Segos but they may come back.
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Re: Freeze damage to plants/trees
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02/26/21 10:10 PM
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I wish it would have killed all my bermuda so I can cut it out and start over. You're not serious? It would take 2-3 years to gain line domination with new sod.
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Re: Freeze damage to plants/trees
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02/26/21 10:14 PM
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Derek ๐
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I wish it would have killed all my bermuda so I can cut it out and start over. You're not serious? It would take 2-3 years to gain line domination with new sod. I'm serious considering killing it all and putting in Arden 15 Bermuda.
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Re: Freeze damage to plants/trees
[Re: Curt0407]
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02/26/21 10:57 PM
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I planted 10 30 gallon live oaks Tuesday before the freeze and are not looking too good.
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