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Re: Hiring a Guide before a Tournament [Re: fishinfool649] #13857794 01/23/21 03:51 PM
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I have been hired many times by folks preparing to fish an event on Fork. It was many years ago when I was living & guiding on Fork but the principle remains the same.

The 16-24" slot limit on Fork makes any tourney a challenge. I vividly recall fishing one small club event where me & partner caught over 100# of fish off ONE deep spot (Yes Fork was That good) in May and weighed one fish that went 1.25. It was pretty humbling as a Full-Time Fork Guide to come into weigh in with a fish that would fit in a Zip-Loc sandwich bag. So there's that... nuts

Having made my living fishing, I guess I have a different perspective than most. I hire a guide every time I go out of town on vacay. I want to maximize my time on the water by fishing with someone that knows the lake. I'm not fishing a tournament after using the guide but I don't have an issue with it.



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Re: Hiring a Guide before a Tournament [Re: Dubee] #13857798 01/23/21 03:54 PM
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Originally Posted by Dubee
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I know a lot of these bass club guys around Texas do it. Spend $400 to win $350. Poor math students.


By your logic. Anyone that ever hires a guide is a poor math student. $400 to win nothing.
Maybe they just like to fish and fish with guides. Maybe winning a couple dollars is just icing on the cake. Kinda like saying spend. 80 grand on a boat to win 300. Maybe they spent 80 grand because that's the boat they like. Winning 300 out of is just for fun. I wouldn't ever hire a guide because it just doesn't seem fun to me. I've won a free guide trip on Fork and never went. But I'm not gonna make fun of or look down on someone who does


There's no expiration date on that gift card Scott roflmao



Re: Hiring a Guide before a Tournament [Re: fishinfool649] #13857899 01/23/21 05:03 PM
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I know bass club guys do it so they can get their 5 minutes of fame at the podium. It's a financial loss, so I see no point in it. I would rather spend my money on a guided trip into the Salty Blue-ish Gulf of Mexico. If it ever comes the point that I need to hire a guide to compete with bass club guys, I will hang up the hat. That pretty much explains how I feel about that topic.

Re: Hiring a Guide before a Tournament [Re: Bass Buster1] #13857911 01/23/21 05:13 PM
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I look at another way. I hired a guide once on t-bend just to learn about running the lake. There is nothing wrong with that assuming the rules allow. Lakes like Rayburn T-bend Palestine are all lanes where there is a benefit to learning how to navigate the lake it regardless of whether you fish with the guide or not. Getting on guide fish a few weeks before the tournament will really not help in the tournament. But learning how to navigate the lake safely to avoid boat damage and increase safety no one should have a problem with that

Re: Hiring a Guide before a Tournament [Re: fishinfool649] #13857971 01/23/21 05:59 PM
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Originally Posted by tmd11111
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I know a lot of these bass club guys around Texas do it. Spend $400 to win $350. Poor math students.


Makes complete sense. In the end a guided trip only cost $50



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Re: Hiring a Guide before a Tournament [Re: fishinfool649] #13858018 01/23/21 06:37 PM
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No pride in the victory if someone had to show you where and how to catch fish.

Re: Hiring a Guide before a Tournament [Re: Ken A.] #13858022 01/23/21 06:42 PM
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Originally Posted by Ken A.
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Originally Posted by WLBDallas
I know a lot of these bass club guys around Texas do it. Spend $400 to win $350. Poor math students.


By your logic. Anyone that ever hires a guide is a poor math student. $400 to win nothing.
Maybe they just like to fish and fish with guides. Maybe winning a couple dollars is just icing on the cake. Kinda like saying spend. 80 grand on a boat to win 300. Maybe they spent 80 grand because that's the boat they like. Winning 300 out of is just for fun. I wouldn't ever hire a guide because it just doesn't seem fun to me. I've won a free guide trip on Fork and never went. But I'm not gonna make fun of or look down on someone who does


There's no expiration date on that gift card Scott roflmao


Lol, don't even know what I did with it. It was from the sandbass tournament you organized a few years ago

Re: Hiring a Guide before a Tournament [Re: skeeter61] #13858104 01/23/21 08:14 PM
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No pride in the victory if someone had to show you where and how to catch fish.



You must be new to bass fishing, you can be on them one day and the next they are no place near there.

Re: Hiring a Guide before a Tournament [Re: Dubee] #13858234 01/23/21 09:35 PM
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Originally Posted by Dubee
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I know a lot of these bass club guys around Texas do it. Spend $400 to win $350. Poor math students.


By your logic. Anyone that ever hires a guide is a poor math student. $400 to win nothing.
Maybe they just like to fish and fish with guides. Maybe winning a couple dollars is just icing on the cake. Kinda like saying spend. 80 grand on a boat to win 300. Maybe they spent 80 grand because that's the boat they like. Winning 300 out of is just for fun. I wouldn't ever hire a guide because it just doesn't seem fun to me. I've won a free guide trip on Fork and never went. But I'm not gonna make fun of or look down on someone who does


There's no expiration date on that gift card Scott roflmao


Lol, don't even know what I did with it. It was from the sandbass tournament you organized a few years ago


I still have it Scott. It was for a half day at Whiterock Lake.. woot



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There's no expiration date on that gift card Scott roflmao[/quote]

Lol, don't even know what I did with it. It was from the sandbass tournament you organized a few years ago[/quote]

I still have it Scott. It was for a half day at Whiterock Lake.. woot[/quote]

If it's with you, I'll go grin

Actually I can't believe we have never fished together

Re: Hiring a Guide before a Tournament [Re: fishinfool649] #13858293 01/23/21 10:23 PM
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I would 10x rather someone hire a guide for 2 weeks running up to tournament day or off limits. Than to see so many people running around following the bent rod pattern, that so many seem to be relying on nowadays.

Re: Hiring a Guide before a Tournament [Re: Dubee] #13858302 01/23/21 10:41 PM
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Originally Posted by Dubee



There's no expiration date on that gift card Scott roflmao


Lol, don't even know what I did with it. It was from the sandbass tournament you organized a few years ago[/quote]

I still have it Scott. It was for a half day at Whiterock Lake.. woot[/quote]

If it's with you, I'll go grin

Actually I can't believe we have never fished together[/quote]

I know right! I made so much money guiding four years full time at Fork that I was able to retire.

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Re: Hiring a Guide before a Tournament [Re: Jeff From Iowa] #13858325 01/23/21 11:08 PM
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Actually I'm an old school guy. I've been fishing tournaments for 55 years and still love to compete, but I don't like what I am seeing nowdays.

Re: Hiring a Guide before a Tournament [Re: fishinfool649] #13858380 01/23/21 11:47 PM
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If it's ok by the rules and it passes your sniff test, then go for it. But that said, I don't think it's cool!


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Re: Hiring a Guide before a Tournament [Re: fishinfool649] #13858869 01/24/21 02:35 PM
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LOL, a couple I know hired a guide on Sam Rayburn the week of the CAST Classic 10 or so years ago. Located and caught some decent fish. Took off the first morning of the tournament and there were six other boats on the best spot.......all had hired the same guide that week.

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