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Re: MLF bottom 10 losing tour card [Re: Big O Florida] #13851311 01/18/21 11:26 PM
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Originally Posted by Big O Florida
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So I guess maybe there isn't an answer to the OP's question. That or those in the know got side tracked by Big O, which is understandable I guess. If there isn't an answer to the OP's question, it does beg the question why anyone would fish the Tacklewarehouse Pro Circuit as anything other than a backup plan? Seems to me anyone fishing at that level would want a defined path to the tour at the top of the pyramid.


No one got sidetracked by me... they know I am absolutely correct, that’s why you haven’t seen one sensible rebuttal. The true answer you are seeking and deserve is not flattering to MLF, but you won’t hear it from the MLF boot licking fan boys.

Truth is ;Only the dumb money and greater fools will get involved in a humongous 5 tournament thinking it will lead to an established big stage.


Everyone knows you are full of bs. When anyone brings up facts to dispute your bs you ignore it and just makes the same claims over and over. I don't know how many times you have claimed they cancelled the Redcrest and stole the money. When in reality the just changed from a fall championship to spring. Now go find your baseball

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Re: MLF bottom 10 losing tour card [Re: Lone_Wolf] #13851385 01/19/21 12:38 AM
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Re: MLF bottom 10 losing tour card [Re: Lone_Wolf] #13851398 01/19/21 12:46 AM
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What is the take on Iaconnelli being out at MLF - BPT? He had a stake in it.

There is a certain amount of unhappiness over there from the anglers on them feeling it’s short of what they felt they were promised going in. Some expected it, some did not.

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Re: MLF bottom 10 losing tour card [Re: Lone_Wolf] #13851407 01/19/21 12:50 AM
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Interesting to see that chart and how it says “NO-Entry Fee Bass Pro Tour”. Can’t be a typo if that chart is new.

Re: MLF bottom 10 losing tour card [Re: Fishspanker] #13851613 01/19/21 03:35 AM
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Originally Posted by grout-scout
Interesting to see that chart and how it says “NO-Entry Fee Bass Pro Tour”. Can’t be a typo if that chart is new.

Its an old chart

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What is the take on Iaconnelli being out at MLF - BPT? He had a stake in it.

There is a certain amount of unhappiness over there from the anglers on them feeling it’s short of what they felt they were promised going in. Some expected it, some did not.

Ike is still a part owner I think

Re: MLF bottom 10 losing tour card [Re: Lone_Wolf] #13851642 01/19/21 04:15 AM
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Old chart, makes sense then. Bass Talk Live was discussing the 10 angler drop off the other day and how guys were going to get picked to fish events. Was over my head when Mark was discussing it, didn’t make sense.

Re: MLF bottom 10 losing tour card [Re: Lone_Wolf] #13851685 01/19/21 06:24 AM
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Originally Posted by Lone_Wolf
Originally Posted by grout-scout
Interesting to see that chart and how it says “NO-Entry Fee Bass Pro Tour”. Can’t be a typo if that chart is new.

Its an old chart

Originally Posted by Fishspanker
What is the take on Iaconnelli being out at MLF - BPT? He had a stake in it.

There is a certain amount of unhappiness over there from the anglers on them feeling it’s short of what they felt they were promised going in. Some expected it, some did not.

Ike is still a part owner I think


Yes, an old chart that accurately reflects the bill of goods those guys were sold. Particularly to those guys who drank the kool-aid and stayed with the humongous 5 pro tour after all the smart money left to fish the opens exclusively. The “No-Entry Fees Bass Pro Tour” being the biggest misrepresentation of the whole sales pitch. Word is, they even floated the idea of trying to get the qualifiers for the 2021 Deadcrest to pony up and pay an entry fee for that tournament too... (they even tried to call it refundable)... which goes to illustrate something that should have already been paid for and planned, never was. Contrary to what some people continue to recite.

And yes, Ike is an angler/investor of MLF and one of the dozen or so anglers I suspect would not be welcomed back to BASS under any circumstances due to his actions in 2019 and being actively involved in recruiting and pressuring the lemmings. Good luck to him with even getting his principle investment back... I suspect it’s poof gone, just like the million $ of purse money that was removed from the MLFLW anglers table during the 2020 season.

Re: MLF bottom 10 losing tour card [Re: Lone_Wolf] #13851814 01/19/21 01:20 PM
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I'm gonna say Big O Florida knows more about what's going on than the average bear... I'm thinking most just don't like the messenger... Dan


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Re: MLF bottom 10 losing tour card [Re: Dan21XRS] #13851892 01/19/21 02:13 PM
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I'm gonna say Big O Florida knows more about what's going on than the average bear... I'm thinking most just don't like the messenger... Dan


If he only stated facts I would have no problem with it. I get annoyed at him constantly spouting off bs that just isn't true

Re: MLF bottom 10 losing tour card [Re: Lone_Wolf] #13851904 01/19/21 02:20 PM
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Why was he gone for so long, banned camp?

Re: MLF bottom 10 losing tour card [Re: Dubee] #13851923 01/19/21 02:29 PM
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Originally Posted by Dubee
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I'm gonna say Big O Florida knows more about what's going on than the average bear... I'm thinking most just don't like the messenger... Dan


If he only stated facts I would have no problem with it. I get annoyed at him constantly spouting off bs that just isn't true



His arguments seem well thought out and make sense. All you guys come up with is "well you're an idiot". Prove him wrong or shut up.


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Re: MLF bottom 10 losing tour card [Re: J.H.S.] #13851943 01/19/21 02:38 PM
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I'm gonna say Big O Florida knows more about what's going on than the average bear... I'm thinking most just don't like the messenger... Dan


If he only stated facts I would have no problem with it. I get annoyed at him constantly spouting off bs that just isn't true



His arguments seem well thought out and make sense. All you guys come up with is "well you're an idiot". Prove him wrong or shut up.



One of his main arguments has always been that they cancelled last years Redcrest championship and stole the money. They didn't cancel or steal anything. They changed from a fall to spring championship. If he can't understand that is not cancelling and stealing the money. Then he is an idiot

Re: MLF bottom 10 losing tour card [Re: Lone_Wolf] #13851990 01/19/21 03:10 PM
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I personally enjoy watching both sides fish. But I also think if something sounds to good to be true then it usually is. Not saying Big-O is all right but he does make some valid points. I might have missed it, but why did they push the Redcrest back? Lack of funds? Schedule interruption? Pandemic? I truly don’t know have not done any research on it. Also, why the change from contract to move it to Palestine? I’d much rather see them here locally of course and navigate the cement stump field, but why did they change? Not arguing with any of y’all and not looking for one. Truly don’t know the answers 😂....

Big-o.... I don’t think your an idiot at all especially how well you can explain yourself sometimes. Just curious if you have a leg in the industry or are you just doing research? Maybe an Acquaintance or friend fishing? Just curious where you get your info from.

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Originally Posted by Josh Seale
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I'm gonna say Big O Florida knows more about what's going on than the average bear... I'm thinking most just don't like the messenger... Dan


If he only stated facts I would have no problem with it. I get annoyed at him constantly spouting off bs that just isn't true



His arguments seem well thought out and make sense. All you guys come up with is "well you're an idiot". Prove him wrong or shut up.

Well said I also think he knows more than most other than MJ who knows a lot about it also.

Re: MLF bottom 10 losing tour card [Re: Lone_Wolf] #13852028 01/19/21 03:39 PM
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Not sure if they ever said exactly why Redcrest was moved forward, that might have been the plan all along to compete with the Classic before everything fell apart in March. Palestine was voted on by the anglers, most did not want to go to Grand duplicate years in a row plus Grand is not fishing good now compared to Palestine.

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