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Re: Big Tech Shuts Down Parler! [Re: J.P. Greeson] #13841780 01/11/21 04:14 PM
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JP, I thought you were smarter than this. Every president before Trump would step out and talk to the people anytime they wanted. Via press conferences and State of the Union speeches. Trump's choice to use privately held entities where he can just say whatever he wants (whether it's true or not) and then not answer to scrutiny over the same is exactly why he hides behind Twitter, FB, Parler, etc... No one can call him on it, because he won't even entertain the possibility that he might be wrong.

Same stuff happens on this site. Guys and gals will get on here and say whatever they want. There are no consequences for getting it wrong.

Prolly a good thing he never made it to Vietnam. As a proud veteran of the US Navy, I could see where he likely would have caught some friendly fire had he tried to exert the type of leadership he has exhibited over the last few years.



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Yeah, it's all all part of a huge conspiracy to silence Trump, just like everything else that happens on this planet. Give me a break.

A conspiracy is something difficult to prove, like who killed Kennedy. There is no question that Trump is being silenced by Twitter, Facebook and others - not conspiracy - fact.


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Re: Big Tech Shuts Down Parler! [Re: texcajun] #13841795 01/11/21 04:22 PM
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Originally Posted by texcajun

JP, I thought you were smarter than this. Every president before Trump would step out and talk to the people anytime they wanted. Via press conferences and State of the Union speeches. Trump's choice to use privately held entities where he can just say whatever he wants (whether it's true or not) and then not answer to scrutiny over the same is exactly why he hides behind Twitter, FB, Parler, etc... No one can call him on it, because he won't even entertain the possibility that he might be wrong.

Same stuff happens on this site. Guys and gals will get on here and say whatever they want. There are no consequences for getting it wrong.

Prolly a good thing he never made it to Vietnam. As a proud veteran of the US Navy, I could see where he likely would have caught some friendly fire had he tried to exert the type of leadership he has exhibited over the last few years.



Originally Posted by J.P. Greeson
Originally Posted by CaptainCrunch
Yeah, it's all all part of a huge conspiracy to silence Trump, just like everything else that happens on this planet. Give me a break.

A conspiracy is something difficult to prove, like who killed Kennedy. There is no question that Trump is being silenced by Twitter, Facebook and others - not conspiracy - fact.



So give us examples of what he said that he is wrong about. Nobody else except Trump uses social media as a platform? And everybody else except Trump who uses social media is telling the truth and the ability to call them out is not necessary....and your doubting someone else's intelligence?

Re: Big Tech Shuts Down Parler! [Re: Huckleberry] #13841814 01/11/21 04:34 PM
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Ask yourself why won’t he just do a press conference.


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Re: Big Tech Shuts Down Parler! [Re: texcajun] #13841820 01/11/21 04:36 PM
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Originally Posted by texcajun
Ask yourself why won’t he just do a press conference.


He has done more press conferences in 4 years than any other president in history.

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Originally Posted by texcajun
Ask yourself why won’t he just do a press conference.


duh

Re: Big Tech Shuts Down Parler! [Re: texcajun] #13841823 01/11/21 04:36 PM
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Originally Posted by texcajun
Ask yourself why won’t he just do a press conference.


He has done more press conferences, answered more questions from the media than any other president. Ask yourself why the press doesn't ask Joe any questions other than how is foot feels?

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Re: Big Tech Shuts Down Parler! [Re: texcajun] #13841836 01/11/21 04:47 PM
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Originally Posted by texcajun
Ask yourself why won’t he just do a press conference.


He used Twitter so that the messaging couldn’t be taken out of context or distorted by the media (and that was smart, because no president was distorted by the media more than Trump was).

Also, he averaged 22 press conferences a year, which is more than the last president and slightly below the one before that (and Bush didn’t really have the option to use Twitter).

https://www.presidency.ucsb.edu/statistics/data/presidential-news-conferences


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Re: Big Tech Shuts Down Parler! [Re: Laker One] #13841843 01/11/21 04:52 PM
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Cancel your Twitter account. Someone must have thought of that as they lost $2.7 Billion in stock value over the weekend. Show them how capitalism works. Same with Facebook which is basically for girls and women anyway. Bunch of old ladies.

Re: Big Tech Shuts Down Parler! [Re: texcajun] #13841848 01/11/21 04:56 PM
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Originally Posted by texcajun
JP, I thought you were smarter than this.

That's always a good way to start a rebuttal. rolleyes


Originally Posted by texcajun
Every president before Trump would step out and talk to the people anytime they wanted. Via press conferences and State of the Union speeches. Trump's choice to use privately held entities where he can just say whatever he wants (whether it's true or not) and then not answer to scrutiny over the same is exactly why he hides behind Twitter, FB, Parler, etc... No one can call him on it, because he won't even entertain the possibility that he might be wrong.

The press has been beyond hostile towards Trump. Right or wrong with his message, he chose to go directly to the people without the mass spin he knew would be put on his every word.


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Same stuff happens on this site. Guys and gals will get on here and say whatever they want. There are no consequences for getting it wrong.

Not really. When someone posts false information, they are confronted by the members. We usually don't have to get involved.


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Re: Big Tech Shuts Down Parler! [Re: Laker One] #13841865 01/11/21 05:06 PM
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On the bright side, I shorted Twitter today for $2,518.00

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The first amendment very clearly says. "Congress shall make no law abridging the freedom of speech." The key term there is Congress. It does not say, "Businesses shall make no rules."

Amazon has terms of service just like very other company out there. When parlor clicked, "We accept the terms of service," they agreed to play by the rules. Amazon has deemed they haven't played by the rules. That's perfectly legal.

You guys like to selectively apply the constitution when it suits your purposes and pretend it says something different when it doesn't.

Amazon has every right to deny them service so long as they are not doing so for protected reasons. (Race. Color. Religion or creed. National origin or ancestry. Sex. Age. Physical or mental disability. Veteran status.)

Parlor may have some service disruption, but they are not going anywhere. There's a million porn sites that can find service providers, Parlor will find one as well.


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Re: Big Tech Shuts Down Parler! [Re: Laker One] #13841878 01/11/21 05:13 PM
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Originally Posted by Jpurdue
The first amendment very clearly says. "Congress shall make no law abridging the freedom of speech." The key term there is Congress. It does not say, "Businesses shall make no rules."

Amazon has terms of service just like very other company out there. When parlor clicked, "We accept the terms of service," they agreed to play by the rules. Amazon has deemed they haven't played by the rules. That's perfectly legal.

You guys like to selectively apply the constitution when it suits your purposes and pretend it says something different when it doesn't.

Amazon has every right to deny them service so long as they are not doing so for protected reasons. (Race. Color. Religion or creed. National origin or ancestry. Sex. Age. Physical or mental disability. Veteran status.)

Parlor may have some service disruption, but they are not going anywhere. There's a million porn sites that can find service providers, Parlor will find one as well.

So it was OK to organize riots on social media 6-8 months ago? You are entirely missing the point. These service agreement rules they are citing have been broken many times in the past without repercussions. This is selective enforcement to silence people.


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Re: Big Tech Shuts Down Parler! [Re: Laker One] #13841887 01/11/21 05:17 PM
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Actually, Twitter, Google, and Apple accept more than enough government money to satisfy a “arm of a the government” precedent, which already exists. I don’t know if the people would prevail in court, but the precedent certainly exists. I find some accounts of “the threat of more violence” to be absurdly overstated, too. I recently watched a compilation of MSM commentaries on the violence from last year, where the talking heads were waxing eloquently about how all of the “DEFUND” and BLM looting, burning, and killing was benefitting our nation. It’s a long-standing double standard, and far too many sheep in this country allow the he MSM to tell them what to think, without question. When this love affair with the left ends, a lot of the damage they’ve done won’t be reversed.

Re: Big Tech Shuts Down Parler! [Re: J.P. Greeson] #13841898 01/11/21 05:22 PM
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Originally Posted by J.P. Greeson
This is selective enforcement to silence people.


That is exactly the case. The cancel culture and censorship is way out of control.

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