texasfishingforum.com logo
Main Menu
Advertisement
Affiliates
Advertisement
Newest Members
TraeMartin, Power-Pole CS, T-Rigger, JoeGoes, EcKo
119150 Registered Users
Top Posters(All Time)
hopalong 120,586
TexDawg 119,529
Bigbob_FTW 94,908
John175☮ 85,893
Pilothawk 83,264
Bob Davis 81,523
Mark Perry 72,297
Derek 🐝 68,312
JDavis7873 67,416
Forum Statistics
Forums59
Topics1,037,865
Posts13,935,768
Members144,150
Most Online39,925
Dec 30th, 2023
Print Thread
Page 2 of 3 1 2 3
Re: 6.3 gears ok for deep cranking? [Re: wh2004] #13832327 01/05/21 01:43 AM
Joined: Feb 2011
Posts: 1,991
S
sprigsss Offline
Extreme Angler
Offline
Extreme Angler
S
Joined: Feb 2011
Posts: 1,991
You can use a 6.3 but I find it will wear you out a lot quicker than a 5.4 or less.

I don’t mind retrieving 5xds, DD22s and 6xds with a 6.3, but a 5.4 makes things much easier on 8xds, 10xds, and other larger crank baits.

Moritz Chevrolet - 9101 Camp Bowie W Blvd, Fort Worth, TX - Monte Coon (817) 696-2003
Re: 6.3 gears ok for deep cranking? [Re: wh2004] #13832355 01/05/21 01:57 AM
Joined: Jan 2004
Posts: 16,815
E
ezbassin Offline
TFF Guru
Offline
TFF Guru
E
Joined: Jan 2004
Posts: 16,815
It depends on what you call deep cranking. Are you talking about a 6XD or a 10XD? I tend to crank fast and have a hard time slowing down so I need the gear ratio to do it for me. For an 8XD and a 10 XD I use a 5-1 gear ratio reel.

Last edited by ezbassin; 01/05/21 01:58 AM.
Re: 6.3 gears ok for deep cranking? [Re: wh2004] #13832396 01/05/21 02:37 AM
Joined: Jul 2010
Posts: 4,108
W
wh2004 Offline OP
TFF Team Angler
OP Offline
TFF Team Angler
W
Joined: Jul 2010
Posts: 4,108
I call deep 12-20’ like I put in the post. I don’t have any idea how deep the XDs you listed go.
I didn’t put less than 12’ cuz I know my 6.3 will work fine on those cuz I’ve thrown a bunch.

Re: 6.3 gears ok for deep cranking? [Re: toddfish] #13832859 01/05/21 03:33 PM
Joined: Dec 2005
Posts: 1,379
R
rangerb Offline
Extreme Angler
Offline
Extreme Angler
R
Joined: Dec 2005
Posts: 1,379
Originally Posted by toddfish
I remember back when 5.1 was considered high speed...I'm getting old!

Yep, and a 3.8 were considered a deep cranking reels. 😀

Re: 6.3 gears ok for deep cranking? [Re: wh2004] #13832952 01/05/21 04:50 PM
Joined: Jun 2002
Posts: 2,039
C
COKEMAN Offline
Extreme Angler
Offline
Extreme Angler
C
Joined: Jun 2002
Posts: 2,039
Remember that you will have to alter your retrieve with either ratio to get the crankbait moving at the speed it needs to get to it's max depth. Usually means cranking faster with the 5:1 or cranking slower with the 6.3:1. So decide which is easier for you. Everyone will have their own preference for what feels easier to do. I prefer to speed up with the 5:1. As mentioned earlier, play with the amount of line on the spool too as that will affect the ratio. You can mess around with the line on the spool of a 6.3:1 and get a low ratio on a long cast that increases as you get closer to the boat.

I also agree that the M action rod is going to be too light for those crankbaits. I use M for anything less than your listed depths, but for those big deep divers, MH is the minimum for me. M action on a big crankbait will wear you out. You won't believe how much until you step up to a heavier action,

Re: 6.3 gears ok for deep cranking? [Re: wh2004] #13835749 01/07/21 02:50 PM
Joined: Mar 2017
Posts: 371
O
over the hill @PK Offline
Angler
Offline
Angler
O
Joined: Mar 2017
Posts: 371
reel will work but the rod has got to go .its way to short for deep cranking 7'6" or longer for deep cranks


Butch Farmer
Re: 6.3 gears ok for deep cranking? [Re: wh2004] #13835974 01/07/21 04:57 PM
Joined: Apr 2009
Posts: 2,750
Outdoordude Offline
Extreme Angler
Offline
Extreme Angler
Joined: Apr 2009
Posts: 2,750
Your combo will be fine for deep cranking. It's not ideal, but it doesn't need to be, that's what you have so make it work. If you really fall in love with deep cranking, then consider a 7'6" or longer MH power, MF parabolic action rod with a lower gear ratio high capacity reel for your next combo. You'll get longer casts and less fatigue casting and reeling with that kind of set-up, but it's not very good for much else other than lipless cranks, possibly small exposed hook swimbaits in my opinion. Until then, slow your retrieve a bit with your current combo and try to not overpower your casting; the M power rod is going to flex hard and you'll wear yourself out (potentially injure) trying to get exceptional distance on a cast.


Scott Jones
Re: 6.3 gears ok for deep cranking? [Re: over the hill @PK] #13837169 01/08/21 04:52 AM
Joined: Jul 2010
Posts: 4,108
W
wh2004 Offline OP
TFF Team Angler
OP Offline
TFF Team Angler
W
Joined: Jul 2010
Posts: 4,108
Originally Posted by Butch @Hubbard creek
reel will work but the rod has got to go .its way to short for deep cranking 7'6" or longer for deep cranks


Yeah I guess for now I’m just going to have to make It work. Majority of my cranking is shallower anyways.

My next combo I’ll get a curado 300 k and a bps longer cranking stick in MH.

Re: 6.3 gears ok for deep cranking? [Re: wh2004] #13837640 01/08/21 04:48 PM
Joined: Jun 2002
Posts: 2,039
C
COKEMAN Offline
Extreme Angler
Offline
Extreme Angler
C
Joined: Jun 2002
Posts: 2,039
Originally Posted by wh2004
Originally Posted by Butch @Hubbard creek
reel will work but the rod has got to go .its way to short for deep cranking 7'6" or longer for deep cranks


Yeah I guess for now I’m just going to have to make It work. Majority of my cranking is shallower anyways.

My next combo I’ll get a curado 300 k and a bps longer cranking stick in MH.


For sure try what you have to see if you even throw the bigger cranks enough to make it worth it. I use the cranking sticks and recommend them, but that 7'6"" rod is a PITA to stow and carry just for a few casts a day. I'll throw a crankbait all day long, so it's worth it to me. That 7'6" MH makes those baits so much easier to use all day, but if I don't plan on spending a lot of time deep cranking that day, it will stay home and out of the way.

Now, if you have a 21 foot boat with rod lockers you can sleep in, load it up with whatever you want smile

Re: 6.3 gears ok for deep cranking? [Re: COKEMAN] #13838531 01/09/21 01:54 AM
Joined: Mar 2012
Posts: 11,008
BigDozer66 Offline
TFF Guru
Offline
TFF Guru
Joined: Mar 2012
Posts: 11,008
Originally Posted by COKEMAN
Originally Posted by wh2004
Originally Posted by Butch @Hubbard creek
reel will work but the rod has got to go .its way to short for deep cranking 7'6" or longer for deep cranks


Yeah I guess for now I’m just going to have to make It work. Majority of my cranking is shallower anyways.

My next combo I’ll get a curado 300 k and a bps longer cranking stick in MH.


For sure try what you have to see if you even throw the bigger cranks enough to make it worth it. I use the cranking sticks and recommend them, but that 7'6"" rod is a PITA to stow and carry just for a few casts a day. I'll throw a crankbait all day long, so it's worth it to me. That 7'6" MH makes those baits so much easier to use all day, but if I don't plan on spending a lot of time deep cranking that day, it will stay home and out of the way.

Now, if you have a 21 foot boat with rod lockers you can sleep in, load it up with whatever you want smile


I just have a little old 18-1/2 aluminum boat but my 8' Dobyns Rods fit without a problem. rock


2016 Ranger RT188 Charcoal Metallic Dual Console
2017 Yamaha 115 VMAX SHO (VF115LA) SS Prop
Minn Kota Ultrex i-Pilot Link 45" 80 lb.
Humminbird Helix 10 Mega SI BalZout Console
Humminbird Helix 10 Mega SI BBT Bow Mount
Trick Step

[Linked Image]
Re: 6.3 gears ok for deep cranking? [Re: BigDozer66] #13839243 01/09/21 04:32 PM
Joined: Jun 2002
Posts: 2,039
C
COKEMAN Offline
Extreme Angler
Offline
Extreme Angler
C
Joined: Jun 2002
Posts: 2,039
Yeah, mine fit without a problem for me too. At least in my eyes. But my partner gripes about having to move them around to get to stuff. Every one has something to gripe about.

Re: 6.3 gears ok for deep cranking? [Re: COKEMAN] #13839970 01/10/21 02:26 AM
Joined: Mar 2012
Posts: 11,008
BigDozer66 Offline
TFF Guru
Offline
TFF Guru
Joined: Mar 2012
Posts: 11,008
Originally Posted by COKEMAN
Yeah, mine fit without a problem for me too. At least in my eyes. But my partner gripes about having to move them around to get to stuff. Every one has something to gripe about.


Oh okay! cheers

Now If I want one on the bottom of mine the top ones have to come out! gumshoe

It isn't perfect but I keep the ones I use most on the top so those 4 or 5 are coming out anyway.


2016 Ranger RT188 Charcoal Metallic Dual Console
2017 Yamaha 115 VMAX SHO (VF115LA) SS Prop
Minn Kota Ultrex i-Pilot Link 45" 80 lb.
Humminbird Helix 10 Mega SI BalZout Console
Humminbird Helix 10 Mega SI BBT Bow Mount
Trick Step

[Linked Image]
Re: 6.3 gears ok for deep cranking? [Re: toddfish] #13840184 01/10/21 10:27 AM
Joined: Nov 2008
Posts: 7,610
3
361V Offline
TFF Celebrity
Offline
TFF Celebrity
3
Joined: Nov 2008
Posts: 7,610
Originally Posted by toddfish
I remember back when 5.1 was considered high speed...I'm getting old!
Exactly!

Re: 6.3 gears ok for deep cranking? [Re: wh2004] #13840345 01/10/21 02:27 PM
Joined: Mar 2006
Posts: 2,750
B
basscaster46 Offline
Extreme Angler
Offline
Extreme Angler
B
Joined: Mar 2006
Posts: 2,750
Heck the abu 5000 was 4.7 lol
Got two of those gold abu 3.8 round reels when I want real slow


I got all day I’m retired
Re: 6.3 gears ok for deep cranking? [Re: wh2004] #13841720 01/11/21 03:38 PM
Joined: Feb 2011
Posts: 1,991
S
sprigsss Offline
Extreme Angler
Offline
Extreme Angler
S
Joined: Feb 2011
Posts: 1,991
The lower gear ratio is easier to work with if you are cranking for quite some time.

When I didn't have a dedicated cranking rod, I didn't spend much time deep cranking. My wrists would begin to hurt. I now have 2 dedicated cranking rods, I can now crank for several hours without wearing myself out.

I think in general the gear can be correlated to diving depth, but its not always like this.

The gear I use is dictated more about the crankbait shape profile than how deep it dives.


I have made bottom contact in 18' of water pretty consistently with a 6XD and 12 lb fluorocarbon, but I don't mind using my 6.3:1 with them. If I get on a consistent bite, I will eventually tie a 6XD on my winch, just because it is so much more effortless to retrieve. Doesn't feel like you are fighting a 2 lb fish on every cast.

If I'm throwing an Academy brand deep diver, they have much more resistance in the water. I will typically throw an Academy brand that dives 15-17' on my revo winch.

So its hard to say which rod/reel for which "depth". It varies from crankbait to crankbait.


I use a 7' Ugly Stick Lite with a 6.3 for small squarebills and depths of less then 10'. Many laugh, but this is one of my favorite rods in the box. I love it for jerkbaits, small topwaters, and small cranks.
But I've thrown bigger square bills that I will only throw on my 7'6 MH, Mod action cranking rod.

I've caught some good quality fish out deep cranking. There have been several times that having that lower gear ratio has allowed me to cover water and spend more time throwing that crankbait, and put more fish in the boat.

Page 2 of 3 1 2 3
Previous Thread
Index
Next Thread

© 1998-2022 OUTDOOR SITES NETWORK all rights reserved USA and Worldwide
Powered by UBB.threads™ PHP Forum Software 7.7.3