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Re: Rayburn is Dead [Re: 1bas] #13830116 01/03/21 05:23 AM
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Originally Posted by 1bas
Anyone who thinks Rayburn is back, apparently did not fish there prior to 1998. It was pretty good from 05 thru 11. But in either case it's only a shell of its former self. I fished several tournaments in the 90's where 20lbs wouldn't get a check paying 30-40 places. In either 93 or 94, Mc Donalds tournament there was 124 or 127 bass over 8lbs. It still has great moments, but between not much grass and waaaay too much fishing pressure, I don't believe we will ever see the consistent HEAVY weigh ins again.



Kinda spot on.


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Re: Rayburn is Dead [Re: RayBob] #13830127 01/03/21 05:56 AM
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Originally Posted by 1bas
Anyone who thinks Rayburn is back, apparently did not fish there prior to 1998. It was pretty good from 05 thru 11. But in either case it's only a shell of its former self. I fished several tournaments in the 90's where 20lbs wouldn't get a check paying 30-40 places. In either 93 or 94, Mc Donalds tournament there was 124 or 127 bass over 8lbs. It still has great moments, but between not much grass and waaaay too much fishing pressure, I don't believe we will ever see the consistent HEAVY weigh ins again.



Kinda spot on.



Just a few years ago 20lbs didn't get a check in 50th place in a basschamps. The lake was packed with 3-6lbers. Now it's really hard to find fish over 4 and 5's are almost non existent. You literally are more likely to catch a 6.5-7 than a 5. Not that you catch many of those either. The good news is that the lake packed with 2-3lbers so we'll see....

Re: Rayburn is Dead [Re: Jarrett Latta] #13830424 01/03/21 05:05 PM
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Originally Posted by Jarrett Latta
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Originally Posted by 1bas
Anyone who thinks Rayburn is back, apparently did not fish there prior to 1998. It was pretty good from 05 thru 11. But in either case it's only a shell of its former self. I fished several tournaments in the 90's where 20lbs wouldn't get a check paying 30-40 places. In either 93 or 94, Mc Donalds tournament there was 124 or 127 bass over 8lbs. It still has great moments, but between not much grass and waaaay too much fishing pressure, I don't believe we will ever see the consistent HEAVY weigh ins again.



Kinda spot on.



Just a few years ago 20lbs didn't get a check in 50th place in a basschamps. The lake was packed with 3-6lbers. Now it's really hard to find fish over 4 and 5's are almost non existent. You literally are more likely to catch a 6.5-7 than a 5. Not that you catch many of those either. The good news is that the lake packed with 2-3lbers so we'll see....


Lot of us thought the same thing about Amistad when the hydrilla came back.. After a couple of good spawns there were small fish everywhere which led most to believe that in a couple of years those would be good quality fish and the lake would make a return... Not so.. If anything it's gotten worse.

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Lot of us thought the same thing about Amistad when the hydrilla came back.. After a couple of good spawns there were small fish everywhere which led most to believe that in a couple of years those would be good quality fish and the lake would make a return... Not so.. If anything it's gotten worse. [/quote]

Man I miss the glory days of Amistad. It was so much fun. I enjoyed it just as much as the Fork and Falcon glory days.

Re: Rayburn is Dead [Re: mudd] #13830578 01/03/21 07:11 PM
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Both choke and amistad are fishing better, choke especially but I feel that'll last about a year after choke gets her guts beat in. I've already seen a bunch of guides offering trips there. I don't blame them, I'd do it also, it just can't sustain it. Enjoy it while you can is my motto.

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Originally Posted by Jarrett Latta
Both choke and amistad are fishing better, choke especially but I feel that'll last about a year after choke gets her guts beat in. I've already seen a bunch of guides offering trips there. I don't blame them, I'd do it also, it just can't sustain it. Enjoy it while you can is my motto.

better than what ??
Choke yes .. Amistad --- is and has been horrible.

Re: Rayburn is Dead [Re: fishnfireman] #13830625 01/03/21 08:10 PM
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Both choke and amistad are fishing better, choke especially but I feel that'll last about a year after choke gets her guts beat in. I've already seen a bunch of guides offering trips there. I don't blame them, I'd do it also, it just can't sustain it. Enjoy it while you can is my motto.

better than what ??
Choke yes .. Amistad --- is and has been horrible.

Better than past few years.

Re: Rayburn is Dead [Re: Jarrett Latta] #13830789 01/03/21 10:50 PM
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Originally Posted by Jarrett Latta
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Anyone who thinks Rayburn is back, apparently did not fish there prior to 1998. It was pretty good from 05 thru 11. But in either case it's only a shell of its former self. I fished several tournaments in the 90's where 20lbs wouldn't get a check paying 30-40 places. In either 93 or 94, Mc Donalds tournament there was 124 or 127 bass over 8lbs. It still has great moments, but between not much grass and waaaay too much fishing pressure, I don't believe we will ever see the consistent HEAVY weigh ins again.



Kinda spot on.



Just a few years ago 20lbs didn't get a check in 50th place in a basschamps. The lake was packed with 3-6lbers. Now it's really hard to find fish over 4 and 5's are almost non existent. You literally are more likely to catch a 6.5-7 than a 5. Not that you catch many of those either. The good news is that the lake packed with 2-3lbers so we'll see....


It's year class recruitment obviously. Those springs we had the lake up at least 5' (and up to 10') is resulting in those 2-3 lb'ers. But we can all agree that big grass fields would result in more consistently high numbers of year class survivors.

BTW, I'm not arguing . . . I respect your views a lot here and on FB. I'm just longing for the "good ol' days"/


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Re: Rayburn is Dead [Re: RayBob] #13830810 01/03/21 11:20 PM
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Originally Posted by RayBob
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Originally Posted by 1bas
Anyone who thinks Rayburn is back, apparently did not fish there prior to 1998. It was pretty good from 05 thru 11. But in either case it's only a shell of its former self. I fished several tournaments in the 90's where 20lbs wouldn't get a check paying 30-40 places. In either 93 or 94, Mc Donalds tournament there was 124 or 127 bass over 8lbs. It still has great moments, but between not much grass and waaaay too much fishing pressure, I don't believe we will ever see the consistent HEAVY weigh ins again.



Kinda spot on.



Just a few years ago 20lbs didn't get a check in 50th place in a basschamps. The lake was packed with 3-6lbers. Now it's really hard to find fish over 4 and 5's are almost non existent. You literally are more likely to catch a 6.5-7 than a 5. Not that you catch many of those either. The good news is that the lake packed with 2-3lbers so we'll see....


It's year class recruitment obviously. Those springs we had the lake up at least 5' (and up to 10') is resulting in those 2-3 lb'ers. But we can all agree that big grass fields would result in more consistently high numbers of year class survivors.

BTW, I'm not arguing . . . I respect your views a lot here and on FB. I'm just longing for the "good ol' days"/

Agreed the good ol days were nice but also 3 times the grass and less than half the fisherman and less electronics haha. Good times but it'll never get back to that. Rayburn and Toledo are what they are until we get another sustained drought in my opinion

Re: Rayburn is Dead [Re: mudd] #13831212 01/04/21 08:11 AM
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I know this thread is not about, how great the good ol days @ Rayburn were , but one memory ( as unsuccessful as it was) is burned in my memory. Albert Collins and I were pre fishing for some upcoming tournaments, on a sleeting 20 mph nw. windy Jan. day. We pulled up on a spot where he caught a 8, and over the next 30 minutes we had the hooks and split rings ripped out of 5 rattle traps. I still believe that had we put those 5 in the boat, we would have been in the 60lb. range. We will never know. I do hope, before I have to leave this world, that we will see matted grass in 20+ ft. of water again for 4 or 5 yrs. straight.

Re: Rayburn is Dead [Re: mudd] #13831353 01/04/21 02:13 PM
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I believe if the rain event on Thursday did not happen it would have been a slugfest.

Re: Rayburn is Dead [Re: mudd] #13831376 01/04/21 02:31 PM
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Best lake in the country is Chickamauga. Rayburn is a distant 2nd.

Re: Rayburn is Dead [Re: WLBDallas] #13831589 01/04/21 04:48 PM
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Originally Posted by WLBDallas
Best lake in the country is Chickamauga. Rayburn is a distant 2nd.

Kinda depends on how you judge a lake. It's kinda hard to go down to choke and not catch 20lbs right now. Try and do that on Rayburn and you're in for a long day....or week

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Choke is back to being on fire. Love to see some bigger trails hitting that lake again.

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Nothing like bigger trails hitting it, bringing more fishing pressure and then it sucking again. Vicious cycle.

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