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Re: Pro Bass Economics
[Re: 206champion]
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12/14/20 01:44 PM
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Mark Jones
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I think the pros do a lot better than we think, they get new and latest everything and they get to fish for a living. Yep, there’s certainly a large number that struggle but also plenty who do very well. They’re not going to go around sharing their real sponsorship value and total income.
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Re: Pro Bass Economics
[Re: Loomis ex]
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12/14/20 02:25 PM
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Jman
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For me, I'd say it would be a hard way to make a living even if you did do well. Now golf on the other hand - momma should've had me take up golf at a young age
Last edited by Jman; 12/14/20 02:25 PM.
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Re: Pro Bass Economics
[Re: Loomis ex]
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12/14/20 03:08 PM
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yamaha runner
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When I started in insurance 15 years ago , it was rough for a few years and I almost gave up several times. Initially, I was attracted by the flexibility and freedom. However, I realized really quick that it was going to take a lot of work and staying power to succeed and really have that flexibility and freedom. Fishing for a living is no different. Just like any other 1099 job, you make what you make. It’s a bottom line income job. Some will succeed and others will fail. Timing is also a factor. If it was easy and everyone netted six figures, everyone would do it...
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Re: Pro Bass Economics
[Re: Loomis ex]
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12/14/20 06:11 PM
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Rockfisherman
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Golf comparison you say, just for fun..................See the power of 1. MASSIVE SPONSORSHIPS 2. Paying "spectators"
2019 PGA Results (tournament winnings only, does not include player sponsor money or gambling losses.........) #1 Money maker $9,684,006 Total rounds 81 Avg score 69.2 #50 Money maker $2,147,065 Total rounds 78 Avg score 71.2 #100 Money maker $1,061.089 Total rounds 84 Avg score 70.4 #193 Money maker $252,546 Avg score 70.7 (included because he makes a cool qtr million a year)
Very interesting stat............the average round difference between making $9MM or making $.25MM is less than 2 strokes a round........
I suspect we all wish we had played a little more golf when we were younger...................I also suspect that most all fishing pro's do it 1st and foremost for the love/addiction to the sport............No other way to explain the financial or physical and mental hardships they go through.......
PM me to let me know how it was!
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Re: Pro Bass Economics
[Re: 206champion]
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12/14/20 07:24 PM
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SteezMacQueen
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I think the pros do a lot better than we think, they get new and latest everything and they get to fish for a living. I get the latest, greatest of everything at work too, but I don’t have to win my paycheck. I also love what I do for a living. I’d rather keep my fishing at the level it’s at.
Eat. Sleep. Fish.
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Re: Pro Bass Economics
[Re: Rockfisherman]
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12/17/20 12:33 PM
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poker1980
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I agree with you that the top half of pro on the PGA tour make a lot of money, but there are a ton of mini tour guys that don't make anything trying to get to the TOUR. That being said the reason big payouts are because of TV time, and Tiger.
Lots of broke pros that are out there still chasing the dream, I know a few that have chased it for years. Going to Q school and missing it by 1 shot 2 times (when there was PGA Q school), having status on nike, web.com, korn ferry whatever you want to call it now lol.
It takes a lot of money to play golf also, traveling from city to city, not like the PGA guys that fly in on a private jet. There is a lot of things behind the ropes that folks don't know about golf also.
That being said I hope that one day Fishing will have the same platform to make more money, hopefully more TV time and sponsorship.
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Re: Pro Bass Economics
[Re: Loomis ex]
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12/17/20 02:16 PM
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361V
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Re: Pro Bass Economics
[Re: Loomis ex]
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12/18/20 12:04 AM
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MCIPinkie
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Unfortunately, once you take that TV money, you get in bed with devil, and end playing by his rules. When, where, and how he wants to play.
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Re: Pro Bass Economics
[Re: poker1980]
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12/18/20 12:33 AM
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Yoakum
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I worked on the PGA Tour for a few years, and I can say fishing should take a thing or 2 from PGA. Why are there no pro ams for fishing? A lot of companies pay good money for their top customers to be able to play a Monday or Wednesday pro am with Tour players. That’s also a good way for product to be pushed and industry relationships to be formed.
BASS and MLF should allow for some type of “Monday Qualifier”. $500 for a chance to fish in an Elite Series event. Take the top 2-3 people from the qualifier and put them in the tournament. You place top 12 and you’re in the next event. It would get the local community more involved (who here wouldn’t want to pull for Albert Collins in an Elite Series event at Sam?) and would raise a bunch of money.
These are just a couple random ideas I have after traveling with the PGA. Whether they’re possible or not, I’m not sure. What I do know is fishing has to think outside the box a little more.
Last edited by Yoakum; 12/18/20 12:34 AM.
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Re: Pro Bass Economics
[Re: Yoakum]
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12/18/20 01:13 PM
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poker1980
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I totally agree with you on that, they should have some kind of " Monday Qualifier " there is no telling how much money they could tap into, there are a hand full of guys that made the PGA tour by doing that, and stayed on the tour. No not all by any means but you have a chance to play on the same water as the " Big names". Biggest names that I can REMEMBER lol that have made it big time are of course Tiger, Patrick Reed, Phil, Leonard, Ryan Moore, and Jordan. These guys was at the top of their games and for sure better than most on the PGA tour at the time, and the top 25 player on the Korn Ferry tour are for better than the bottom 50 on the PGA tour, so that makes me believe there are some fisherman that are better than some touring pro's that just have cash and can stay in the game. Note Phil won a tour event when in college.
Something else is I'm not sure if BASS or MLF have retirement for there Pro's, unlike the PGA they do have retirement for Pro's and its very good, it has changed over the years from cuts made to total money, regardless this could be a way to make a lot of money for fishing and hopefully secure some for retirement. And who wouldn't throw in 500-1000 bucks for a chance to win 100K in a weekend of fishing, sure you bring in more local talent, but the pros that are fishing everyday are going to beat them most of the time, not always. There is a ton of un-tapped money Fishing could make in my opinion.
Last edited by poker1980; 12/18/20 01:14 PM.
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Re: Pro Bass Economics
[Re: Loomis ex]
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12/18/20 03:11 PM
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WAWI
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Best way to get rich fishing is be rich before you start.
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Re: Pro Bass Economics
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12/18/20 03:12 PM
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WAWI
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And any comparison between fishing and golf demonstrates a total lack of reality.
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Re: Pro Bass Economics
[Re: Loomis ex]
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12/18/20 03:13 PM
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WAWI
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It's like comparing amazon to a neighborhood garage sale.
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Re: Pro Bass Economics
[Re: WAWI]
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12/18/20 03:17 PM
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TxBazzn
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And any comparison between fishing and golf demonstrates a total lack of reality. Amen brother! I tried typing out the differences and why golf is and likely always will be on a another level, but it was way to long.
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