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Re: Monticello
[Re: Jeff From Iowa]
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12/01/20 07:38 PM
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SkeeterGuy1
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Hello Mr. J,
Yes, Luminant owns the former park land and the lake. They are being offered jointly for purchase.
Brad Watson Director of Community Affairs brad.watson@vistracorp.com
So, are you going to carry the loan on this, Jeff? lol
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Re: Monticello
[Re: andy52887]
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12/01/20 08:12 PM
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Chris G
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I have spoken/communicated with Brad on this topic numerous times over the last 2 years. Like I said before....patience. I guess some people struggle with that at times.
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Re: Monticello
[Re: Frank the Tank]
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12/01/20 08:14 PM
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Dubee
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Please educate me, why would it produce giants once it became a cold water lake? Power plant lakes can produce giants. Monti has produced a 14 lber and Welsh has kicked out a 15
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Re: Monticello
[Re: SkeeterGuy1]
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12/01/20 08:15 PM
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Jeff From Iowa
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Hello Mr. J,
Yes, Luminant owns the former park land and the lake. They are being offered jointly for purchase.
Brad Watson Director of Community Affairs brad.watson@vistracorp.com
So, are you going to carry the loan on this, Jeff? lol If it was just the park I would probably be interested in buying it, pretty sure Im light on the funds to buy a whole lake.
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Re: Monticello
[Re: Chris G]
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12/01/20 08:18 PM
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Jeff From Iowa
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I have spoken/communicated with Brad on this topic numerous times over the last 2 years. Like I said before....patience. I guess some people struggle with that at times. No struggle on my end at all. I dont need your permission to inquire about a investment. If they would take a offer on the park I would submit one, they want a offer on the lake and park but arent offering a legal description or anything at this time.
Last edited by Jeff From Iowa; 12/01/20 08:25 PM.
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Re: Monticello
[Re: andy52887]
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12/01/20 08:27 PM
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BROWNING STRONG
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Here are the issues with Monticello , someone has to maintain the land and the dam . The dam has a bad bearing and cannot be opened or closed without expensive repair, the roads and bathroom area are in bad shape . Biggest concern is a liability issue with the old plant and having to have security watch it 24/7. Nothing is going to happen without mega bucks gentlemen .
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Re: Monticello
[Re: BROWNING STRONG]
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12/01/20 08:34 PM
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SkeeterGuy1
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Here are the issues with Monticello , someone has to maintain the land and the dam . The dam has a bad bearing and cannot be opened or closed without expensive repair, the roads and bathroom area are in bad shape . Biggest concern is a liability issue with the old plant and having to have security watch it 24/7. Nothing is going to happen without mega bucks gentlemen . The old plant has already been sold. Luminant has no say so over it...the LLC that owns it can cover that bill.
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Re: Monticello
[Re: Jeff From Iowa]
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12/01/20 08:38 PM
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SkeeterGuy1
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Hello Mr. J,
Yes, Luminant owns the former park land and the lake. They are being offered jointly for purchase.
Brad Watson Director of Community Affairs brad.watson@vistracorp.com
So, are you going to carry the loan on this, Jeff? lol If it was just the park I would probably be interested in buying it, pretty sure Im light on the funds to buy a whole lake. If they'd sell the park itself, no doubt someone would buy it. There's access into Sandlin through the Monti Cove Ramp in that park as well.
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Re: Monticello
[Re: SkeeterGuy1]
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12/01/20 08:43 PM
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Jeff From Iowa
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Hello Mr. J,
Yes, Luminant owns the former park land and the lake. They are being offered jointly for purchase.
Brad Watson Director of Community Affairs brad.watson@vistracorp.com
So, are you going to carry the loan on this, Jeff? lol If it was just the park I would probably be interested in buying it, pretty sure Im light on the funds to buy a whole lake. If they'd sell the park itself, no doubt someone would buy it. There's access into Sandlin through the Monti Cove Ramp in that park as well. Right, last time I contacted them nothing was for sale separate. They were trying to sell the plant lake and park as one.
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Re: Monticello
[Re: Dubee]
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12/01/20 08:46 PM
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Chris G
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Please educate me, why would it produce giants once it became a cold water lake? Power plant lakes can produce giants. Monti has produced a 14 lber and Welsh has kicked out a 15 Yep and both were produced inside the first 10 years of the plants going "hot". The Monti plant came on in phases in the mid to late 1970's with the final tower going on in 1979. Monti's record fish was caught in 1980. Welsh had a similar staggered approach of 1977, 1980 and 1982. That record fish was caught in 1983. See a pattern here? Their record fish were caught about 1 year after the 3rd tower came on line and were never broken. In my opinion, it's the water going hot and staying there why you stopped seeing those giants as they slowly decreased in numbers year after year to where DD's became ghosts despite the incredible amount of grass, pads, bait, etc, etc. Or at least that is what I have read and been told by people WAY smarter than me on the topic.
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Re: Monticello
[Re: andy52887]
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12/01/20 08:54 PM
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Sinkey
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Re: Monticello
[Re: Chris G]
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12/01/20 09:10 PM
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Dubee
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Please educate me, why would it produce giants once it became a cold water lake? Power plant lakes can produce giants. Monti has produced a 14 lber and Welsh has kicked out a 15 Yep and both were produced inside the first 10 years of the plants going "hot". The Monti plant came on in phases in the mid to late 1970's with the final tower going on in 1979. Monti's record fish was caught in 1980. Welsh had a similar staggered approach of 1977, 1980 and 1982. That record fish was caught in 1983. See a pattern here? Their record fish were caught about 1 year after the 3rd tower came on line and were never broken. In my opinion, it's the water going hot and staying there why you stopped seeing those giants as they slowly decreased in numbers year after year to where DD's became ghosts despite the incredible amount of grass, pads, bait, etc, etc. Or at least that is what I have read and been told by people WAY smarter than me on the topic. My bad. I thought both of those plants came online well before that
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Re: Monticello
[Re: Chris G]
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12/01/20 11:11 PM
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TxDanFishMan
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Please educate me, why would it produce giants once it became a cold water lake? Power plant lakes can produce giants. Monti has produced a 14 lber and Welsh has kicked out a 15 Yep and both were produced inside the first 10 years of the plants going "hot". The Monti plant came on in phases in the mid to late 1970's with the final tower going on in 1979. Monti's record fish was caught in 1980. Welsh had a similar staggered approach of 1977, 1980 and 1982. That record fish was caught in 1983. See a pattern here? Their record fish were caught about 1 year after the 3rd tower came on line and were never broken. In my opinion, it's the water going hot and staying there why you stopped seeing those giants as they slowly decreased in numbers year after year to where DD's became ghosts despite the incredible amount of grass, pads, bait, etc, etc. Or at least that is what I have read and been told by people WAY smarter than me on the topic. Catch-and-release was not as common (guilty myself) in the 80's which caused a significant reduction in big fish
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Re: Monticello
[Re: andy52887]
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12/02/20 01:41 AM
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The only reason Monti & Welsh turned out state records in 1980 and 1983 was because they were among the 1st lakes to receive stockings of the Florida strain of bass. The state began the stockings in “hot water” lakes believing the Florida strain would do better in the warmer lakes. Those bass were just hitting the age to be record weights in the early 80’s. Soon found that they survive and thrive just fine in “cold water” lakes through the winters. They did pretty good in Fork. Heck even Possum Kingdom turned out a 16lb bass.
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Re: Monticello
[Re: TxDanFishMan]
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12/02/20 02:04 AM
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Please educate me, why would it produce giants once it became a cold water lake? Power plant lakes can produce giants. Monti has produced a 14 lber and Welsh has kicked out a 15 Yep and both were produced inside the first 10 years of the plants going "hot". The Monti plant came on in phases in the mid to late 1970's with the final tower going on in 1979. Monti's record fish was caught in 1980. Welsh had a similar staggered approach of 1977, 1980 and 1982. That record fish was caught in 1983. See a pattern here? Their record fish were caught about 1 year after the 3rd tower came on line and were never broken. In my opinion, it's the water going hot and staying there why you stopped seeing those giants as they slowly decreased in numbers year after year to where DD's became ghosts despite the incredible amount of grass, pads, bait, etc, etc. Or at least that is what I have read and been told by people WAY smarter than me on the topic. Catch-and-release was not as common (guilty myself) in the 80's which caused a significant reduction in big fish Ah, the Country Corner! Come on you don’t think all those fish were brought all the way back to the park and released? 🤔😁 Ya it was pretty much a rule that if a bass hit 7lbs it was dead for a polaroid snap shot on the wall of fame.
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