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Re: COVID19 VACCINE MAKERS EXEMPT FROM LIABILITY
[Re: lakeforkfisherman]
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11/30/20 02:56 PM
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JCG57
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I took a lot of stats courses in college/grad school, so I tend to look at all significant decisions from a probability perspective. The virus, the vaccine trials have all generated statistically significant samples. Depending on your age and health, you have anywhere from a 0.1% to about 5% chance of dying from Covid, and higher chances of suffering sustained damage from the condition. As I recall, one person on a vaccine trial died (out of tens of thousands), and it is not known if the vaccine played a role. I like my odds with the vaccine, and frankly, it's a no-brainer except for the lowest-risk Covid group - children with no underlying health conditions.
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Re: COVID19 VACCINE MAKERS EXEMPT FROM LIABILITY
[Re: WAWI]
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11/30/20 03:31 PM
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John175☮
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...they be scared of the virus and scared of the vaccine.
“Do not pray for easier lives. Pray to be stronger men.” -JFK
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Re: COVID19 VACCINE MAKERS EXEMPT FROM LIABILITY
[Re: lakeforkfisherman]
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11/30/20 03:31 PM
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RedRanger
burro desagradable
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Only Banners I saw up in my area was "Impeach Obama" hung over 75 north of Plano back in the day
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Re: COVID19 VACCINE MAKERS EXEMPT FROM LIABILITY
[Re: JCG57]
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11/30/20 03:36 PM
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LoneStarSon
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I took a lot of stats courses in college/grad school, so I tend to look at all significant decisions from a probability perspective. The virus, the vaccine trials have all generated statistically significant samples. Depending on your age and health, you have anywhere from a 0.1% to about 5% chance of dying from Covid, and higher chances of suffering sustained damage from the condition. As I recall, one person on a vaccine trial died (out of tens of thousands), and it is not known if the vaccine played a role. I like my odds with the vaccine, and frankly, it's a no-brainer except for the lowest-risk Covid group - children with no underlying health conditions. Moderna had one death among those in the trial and they were not given the vaccine. That was in the news today. https://www.wfaa.com/mobile/article...507-e5be834c-8b0c-4f31-bc51-c1cecd61687a
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Re: COVID19 VACCINE MAKERS EXEMPT FROM LIABILITY
[Re: lakeforkfisherman]
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11/30/20 03:39 PM
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Mark Perry
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Many of the ones saying they will refuse the vaccine are some of the same ones trying to mask shame people, calling the Grandma killers etc and saying we all need to do our part to help our fellow man. Funny how they change their tune and refuse to do their part by taking the vaccine. Pretty hypocritical. Then you get the ones refuding to put something unhealthy in their bodies. Meanwhile they are puffing on cigarettes, eating junk food and are couch potatoes. Suddenly they are concerned with their health. No matter your opinion on how we got here we are all gonna have to do something we might not like in order to move forward past this virus besides point your finger at the next guy. Man up and get the damn vaccine.
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Re: COVID19 VACCINE MAKERS EXEMPT FROM LIABILITY
[Re: lakeforkfisherman]
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11/30/20 03:42 PM
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LoneStarSon
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I want the Pfizer vaccine, but at this point, I just want this over and done, so I'll take the Moderna one of that's all that's available.
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Re: COVID19 VACCINE MAKERS EXEMPT FROM LIABILITY
[Re: lakeforkfisherman]
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11/30/20 03:48 PM
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Mark Perry
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Been reading about the logistcal issues of keeping the vaccine cold enough etc in order to get it out to all areas. They are building special suitcases, freezers etc. To steal a riff from Sam Kinison and modify it a bit.... how about we get the people to the vaccine instead of the vaccine to the people. Set up regional centers and bus folks in and tgen back home if they do not have the means to get there themselves.
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Re: COVID19 VACCINE MAKERS EXEMPT FROM LIABILITY
[Re: Mark Perry]
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11/30/20 03:48 PM
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junk baits
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last I checked it's a corona virus. Not polio and its not a one time deal. Virus mutate and based on medical talk this thing has made many changes already. like trying to kill the fire ant....
GO FISH!
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Re: COVID19 VACCINE MAKERS EXEMPT FROM LIABILITY
[Re: Mark Perry]
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11/30/20 04:15 PM
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leethefishking
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Many of the ones saying they will refuse the vaccine are some of the same ones trying to mask shame people, calling the Grandma killers etc and saying we all need to do our part to help our fellow man. Funny how they change their tune and refuse to do their part by taking the vaccine. Pretty hypocritical. Then you get the ones refuding to put something unhealthy in their bodies. Meanwhile they are puffing on cigarettes, eating junk food and are couch potatoes. Suddenly they are concerned with their health. No matter your opinion on how we got here we are all gonna have to do something we might not like in order to move forward past this virus besides point your finger at the next guy. Man up and get the damn vaccine. I couldn’t agree more.
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Re: COVID19 VACCINE MAKERS EXEMPT FROM LIABILITY
[Re: Mark Perry]
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11/30/20 04:35 PM
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LoneStarSon
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Been reading about the logistcal issues of keeping the vaccine cold enough etc in order to get it out to all areas. They are building special suitcases, freezers etc. To steal a riff from Sam Kinison and modify it a bit.... how about we get the people to the vaccine instead of the vaccine to the people. Set up regional centers and bus folks in and tgen back home if they do not have the means to get there themselves. We have a couple of freezers at work that are -80 degrees. We can handle the storage of all the vaccines except for Pfizer's. Their's requires a -97 degree storage.
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Re: COVID19 VACCINE MAKERS EXEMPT FROM LIABILITY
[Re: lakeforkfisherman]
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11/30/20 04:59 PM
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Dan90210 ☮
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I saw the sign yesterday.
I thought to myself... "Ok. So when can I get some of this vaccine?"
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Re: COVID19 VACCINE MAKERS EXEMPT FROM LIABILITY
[Re: lakeforkfisherman]
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11/30/20 05:02 PM
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WAWI
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I believe the Pfizer is the only one that needs that kind of transportation
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Re: COVID19 VACCINE MAKERS EXEMPT FROM LIABILITY
[Re: Dan90210 ☮]
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11/30/20 05:04 PM
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Emit R Detsaw
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I saw the sign yesterday.
I thought to myself... "Ok. So when can I get some of this vaccine?" Depends on your "risk group" as determined by the government, but most likely, sometime mid 2021 from the reporting on it for most average folks.
May you be treated the way you treat other people, today and everyday!
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Re: COVID19 VACCINE MAKERS EXEMPT FROM LIABILITY
[Re: lakeforkfisherman]
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11/30/20 05:13 PM
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John175☮
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Pretty easy to find the "risk" for your age group. For Texas it's 1,157,273 confirmed cases for today. Fatality Demographics are on the "Fatality Demographics" tab at the bottom. https://txdshs.maps.arcgis.com/apps/opsdashboard/index.html#/ed483ecd702b4298ab01e8b9cafc8b83 Divide your age range total fatalities by 1,157,273 confirmed cases to find your odds of dying from it if you test positive...nobody knows how many have had it and survived without symptoms. The real odds are much, much lower. My odds are pretty puny but I intend to reduce those teeny-tiny odds by getting the vaccine and then go maskless. Bite me mask Nazis.
“Do not pray for easier lives. Pray to be stronger men.” -JFK
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Re: COVID19 VACCINE MAKERS EXEMPT FROM LIABILITY
[Re: John175☮]
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11/30/20 05:38 PM
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Canino
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Divide your age range total fatalities by 1,157,273 confirmed cases to find your odds of dying from it if you test positive That's not how you calculate that figure. You would have to divide total cases in your age range by total fatalities in your age range. You can't mix age-range and non-age-range data and arrive at a meaningful number. The website doesn't appear to give total cases by age range (it gives "completed case investigations", whatever that is), so you can't compute the number you're trying to arrive at with the available data. Overall, you CAN compute 1,157,273 confirmed cases with 21,357 fatalities statewide for a statewide overall rate of 1.85% for all age ranges.
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