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Honest reviews on Garmin Force TM #13754129 11/03/20 12:15 AM
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I’m an Ultrex guy and considering switching. Anybody running them?

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Re: Honest reviews on Garmin Force TM [Re: James Biggs] #13754139 11/03/20 12:25 AM
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Good luck getting an honest review. “I’m running brand X and it’s the best ever”, is more likely the response you’ll get.

Re: Honest reviews on Garmin Force TM [Re: James Biggs] #13754192 11/03/20 12:52 AM
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I wish I could get someone to honestly tell me if they’ve tried one on a low bow hull Bayboat. Some are saying the 57” is plenty and others are saying that I’ll regret it. I’ve done all the measuring off of their graph and my hull is 23.5” off the water. They say anything up to 26” should be ok with the 57” model.

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Re: Honest reviews on Garmin Force TM [Re: James Biggs] #13754289 11/03/20 01:57 AM
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Originally Posted by James Biggs
I’m an Ultrex guy and considering switching. Anybody running them?


Travis is legit. He explains one of the problems several times throughout the video. At the 17 minute mark is an example and then towards the end
https://youtu.be/aQS78dmqG-E

Personally, I am not hearing good enough reasons to switch at retail pricing or up to a 50% discount but I would not want to go back to the two trolling motors on & in the boat days.

Re: Honest reviews on Garmin Force TM [Re: James Biggs] #13754414 11/03/20 03:44 AM
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Smallmouth crush had negative things to say in his end of season boat recap video.


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Re: Honest reviews on Garmin Force TM [Re: Neal G] #13754436 11/03/20 04:38 AM
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Originally Posted by Neal G
Originally Posted by James Biggs
I’m an Ultrex guy and considering switching. Anybody running them?


Travis is legit. He explains one of the problems several times throughout the video. At the 17 minute mark is an example and then towards the end
https://youtu.be/aQS78dmqG-E

Personally, I am not hearing good enough reasons to switch at retail pricing or up to a 50% discount but I would not want to go back to the two trolling motors on & in the boat days.

roflmao I can see making the mistake of having the 50" shaft the first time, but 3 times?

Re: Honest reviews on Garmin Force TM [Re: James Biggs] #13754591 11/03/20 12:56 PM
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Hop owns one I think.

I am sure if you contact him he would be proud to let you run his around on Fork.

Re: Honest reviews on Garmin Force TM [Re: James Biggs] #13754643 11/03/20 01:22 PM
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James, I will be at Fork from the 5th through the 10th. You are more than welcome to try mine while I’m there. I’ll be at LFM.

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Re: Honest reviews on Garmin Force TM [Re: James Biggs] #13754670 11/03/20 01:32 PM
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I put one on my 211 legend a month or so ago - its the 50" and I've had no issues with the length - does it pop out of the water in 3' wake board boat wakes sure it does but so did every longer motorguide and MK I ever had on it but probably couldn't lower it more than another inch or so due needing to keep 4" between the power and the head for the cable to move on turns. This setting keeps the motor unit right at the end of the bracket when stowed. Also because of the way a legend is built the 57" after mounting would have stuck out several inches past the gunnel when stowed - I've knocked of the head off the previous MK I had on it before so wanted to keep it as close the protection of the rub rail as possible.

The cable management system makes for a very clean install.

I can't really give a fair comparison since this is the first foot control one I have ever used. Have bad right leg so until they came out with remote controls I could never use the foot pedal but since this one is wireless it lets me move it to the left from the foot pedal hole I can now use the foot pedal most of the time with only using the remote for power and spot lock. You can adjust the tension on the foot pedal but since I never had one before can't tell whether is more or less pedal feel.

The stow assist it very helpful - way easier than my previous MK and the function of automatically turning the motor to the right position for stowing is great - anchor lock (or whatever garmin calls it) is spot on. Very quite on running but you can hear a little motor noise from where the motor to turn in is.

Power on full is very impressive - about 4+ MPH on a 211 legend.

Re: Honest reviews on Garmin Force TM [Re: James Biggs] #13754724 11/03/20 01:57 PM
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James - feel free to give me a call if you want more details but here is my assessment....I also went from an Ultrex to a Force.

I have had mine for about 8 or 9 months now and got it when they were first coming out.

Pros:
1. The speed, power and silence of the motor is crazy. When it's on 50% or less, you will tend to look down every once in a while to see if the motor is running because it's that quiet.
2. The power goes beyond speed as well as I have run it through some of the thickest grass mats you will find on lake Welsh with ease.
3. Stowing the motor is the easiest I've personally dealt with and the motor actually turns itself when you pull the cord to the correct stowing position.
4. Completely networked with all of my Garmin stuff on the boat, including the Active Captain App on my iPhone
5. The anchor mode seems to have a lot less "jog" than the Ultrex did...no more sliding 5' off your mark then full speed back to it. Seems to just quietly hold you in place

Cons:
1. The pedal itself and how it operates. It can go a little crazy on you at times and it's noisier than I would like. Not as noisy as the Ultrex but still noisy. I have adjusted the pedal and its works pretty good for the most part but there are times it gets a mind of its own but my BIL said it's because of my size 15 sasquatch foot. There was a software update about 3 months ago that seemed to really help calm the pedal down. The time its really an issue is in tight quarters if you are trying to make a hard turn or go in reverse quickly.

Lastly, and not really a pro or con......they don't clearly tell you that you need to set up the Force to connect to the Active Captain App separately so I kept trying to update the software on the Force when I was updating my Garmin Units and was having issues. Once I realized this and configured the Force and Foot Pedal to connect, everything is seamless.


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I have the 57" on a champion 202, had nothing but minn kota for years although I did try a couple of motorguide (they suck the big one imo).

what mike said is about the same for me, really makes it a lot easier for an old guy to sit on a spot and fish.
updates are super easy since they come thru your phone and the app.

one thing I have noticed is when you calibrate the compass in the tm do the 360 slow as you can, I rushed it the first time and while it worked it was off some, recalibrated and now anchor lock is spot on.
mine does stick out some but I can live with it as is, had the fortrex 52" before and the garmin is about the same as it was for overhang.
one nice feature is you can run it 24v or 36v with no modifications needed, just hook it up to either voltage and go. another is you have a space in the mount to accommodate the livescope transducer, you can barely see mine behind the strap. everything ties together with wifi instead of bluetooth, all built in and works great.

I would recommend it over the others after fishing boats with ultrex and ulterra.

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Re: Honest reviews on Garmin Force TM [Re: ring fry] #13755260 11/03/20 07:10 PM
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Originally Posted by ring fry
James, I will be at Fork from the 5th through the 10th. You are more than welcome to try mine while I’m there. I’ll be at LFM.

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There you go James. Ring fry has probably ran one more than anyone anywhere, and is as knowledgeable as anyone in the country on Garmin.

Re: Honest reviews on Garmin Force TM [Re: hopalong] #13755425 11/03/20 10:03 PM
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Originally Posted by hopalong
I have the 57" on a champion 202, had nothing but minn kota for years although I did try a couple of motorguide (they suck the big one imo).

what mike said is about the same for me, really makes it a lot easier for an old guy to sit on a spot and fish.
updates are super easy since they come thru your phone and the app.

one thing I have noticed is when you calibrate the compass in the tm do the 360 slow as you can, I rushed it the first time and while it worked it was off some, recalibrated and now anchor lock is spot on.
mine does stick out some but I can live with it as is, had the fortrex 52" before and the garmin is about the same as it was for overhang.
one nice feature is you can run it 24v or 36v with no modifications needed, just hook it up to either voltage and go. another is you have a space in the mount to accommodate the livescope transducer, you can barely see mine behind the strap. everything ties together with wifi instead of bluetooth, all built in and works great.

I would recommend it over the others after fishing boats with ultrex and ulterra.

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Dang Hop, beautiful boat, never seen that pic on here.......................

Re: Honest reviews on Garmin Force TM [Re: James Biggs] #13755711 11/04/20 01:42 AM
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Go see Lake Fork Guide Johnny Guise. He has one on his bay boat. I bet he will take you out and show you all about it.

Re: Honest reviews on Garmin Force TM [Re: James Biggs] #13756221 11/04/20 12:47 PM
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No input but would be interested in what you decide.

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