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 Re: Tales from Basschamps Championship on the Red River
[Re: Hook'em79]
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10/16/20 08:38 PM
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David Burton
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Not as many tales as I’d thought there would be. Participation rates were down and not many people racing the river to spots because of the trailering decision. My guess is that people were either spread out and catching fish or grouped together in community areas and not catching. Less congestion = less drama?
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Re: Tales from Basschamps Championship on the Red River
[Re: Jigman]
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10/16/20 09:18 PM
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Tiltman
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So did you actually enter the waters in question from the Red on tournament day. Nope, decided to stay south, but I know the water levels and know the rate of drop. It would have been no problem at all for us.
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Re: Tales from Basschamps Championship on the Red River
[Re: Tiltman]
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10/16/20 09:31 PM
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Used2fish
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sooooo apparently he new he was cheating , why else would you tell them to zero weight . SMDH Should not be allowed you made your decision . He was legit, but what he was told to do to prove he could do it right then would have ended his fishing time for the day. He was given no options that would allow him to continue based on complaints about how far north he was. The experts that the TD relied on to verify if it was doable were wrong. I know this because I also made those runs Super unfortunate deal, but the dude is not a cheater. So some sissies complained about how far north an angler was? Why do sissies fish? Go back to golf you babies.
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Re: Tales from Basschamps Championship on the Red River
[Re: Champion1]
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10/16/20 09:41 PM
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Chasin Hogs
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How did the TD find out if he was almost in Canada?
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Re: Tales from Basschamps Championship on the Red River
[Re: Chasin Hogs]
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10/16/20 09:50 PM
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Chris B
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How did the TD find out if he was almost in Canada? He had a cameraman in the boat. He was as open and honest about where he was fishing as it gets. If I had known we were trailering Thursday night I probably would have went up there too.
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Re: Tales from Basschamps Championship on the Red River
[Re: Champion1]
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10/17/20 01:38 AM
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meP2too
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The rules state that fishing areas must be accessed without the use of additional fuel. The mouth of the Sulphur River is 70 miles from red river south, not knowing the guys boat type but assuming it has a 250, will assume close to 3 hours of running up and back at WOT. A 250 gets 23 miles per hour at WOT in perfect conditions, running the Reds bends are not perfect conditions. So it is very doubtful he could run both directions and up the Sulphur without additional gas.
I would guess, that If he needed additional gas under normal tournament conditions then he violated the rules.
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Re: Tales from Basschamps Championship on the Red River
[Re: meP2too]
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10/17/20 01:42 AM
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mudd
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The rules state that fishing areas must be accessed without the use of additional fuel. The mouth of the Sulphur River is 70 miles from red river south, not knowing the guys boat type but assuming it has a 250, will assume close to 3 hours of running up and back at WOT. A 250 gets 23 miles per hour at WOT in perfect conditions, running the Reds bends are not perfect conditions. So it is very doubtful he could run both directions and up the Sulphur without additional gas.
I would guess, that If he needed additional gas under normal tournament conditions then he violated the rules. I’m betting since they spent couple days before cut off up there it’s doable. Also have to remember u don’t have to run wot to achieve the fuel mileage but since Champ failed to ask all these questions and took word of mouth by others, the end result is disqualified instead of one of them getting in a boat and getting him to take them up there himself after the tournament ended to verify everything it’s pretty [censored] deal.
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Re: Tales from Basschamps Championship on the Red River
[Re: Champion1]
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10/17/20 12:35 PM
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Tiltman
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Fuel wasn’t a concern based on circumstances that are not my place to say, but I can say that had we decided to make the run ourselves if no trailering fuel to get to where we were fishing was not a concern.
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Re: Tales from Basschamps Championship on the Red River
[Re: meP2too]
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10/17/20 01:17 PM
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Used2fish
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The rules state that fishing areas must be accessed without the use of additional fuel. The mouth of the Sulphur River is 70 miles from red river south, not knowing the guys boat type but assuming it has a 250, will assume close to 3 hours of running up and back at WOT. A 250 gets 23 miles per hour at WOT in perfect conditions, running the Reds bends are not perfect conditions. So it is very doubtful he could run both directions and up the Sulphur without additional gas.
I would guess, that If he needed additional gas under normal tournament conditions then he violated the rules. Please tell me it wasn't my old buddy that whined
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Re: Tales from Basschamps Championship on the Red River
[Re: Champion1]
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10/17/20 02:15 PM
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Jarrett Latta
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70 miles is easily doable especially if you aren't hammering down wot. That's unfortunate
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Re: Tales from Basschamps Championship on the Red River
[Re: meP2too]
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10/17/20 02:28 PM
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leethefishking
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The rules state that fishing areas must be accessed without the use of additional fuel. The mouth of the Sulphur River is 70 miles from red river south, not knowing the guys boat type but assuming it has a 250, will assume close to 3 hours of running up and back at WOT. A 250 gets 23 miles per hour at WOT in perfect conditions, running the Reds bends are not perfect conditions. So it is very doubtful he could run both directions and up the Sulphur without additional gas.
I would guess, that If he needed additional gas under normal tournament conditions then he violated the rules. What you wrote here doesn’t really make any sense. I don’t know of any bass boat with a 250 that only goes 23 miles per hour and there damn sure isn’t one that gets 23 miles per gallon at wide open throttle. Could you clarify?
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Re: Tales from Basschamps Championship on the Red River
[Re: meP2too]
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10/17/20 02:28 PM
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emorydog
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The rules state that fishing areas must be accessed without the use of additional fuel. The mouth of the Sulphur River is 70 miles from red river south, not knowing the guys boat type but assuming it has a 250, will assume close to 3 hours of running up and back at WOT. A 250 gets 23 miles per hour at WOT in perfect conditions, running the Reds bends are not perfect conditions. So it is very doubtful he could run both directions and up the Sulphur without additional gas.
I would guess, that If he needed additional gas under normal tournament conditions then he violated the rules. Please help me and point out the section of the rules that address the additional fuel rule and how it pertains to trailering. If he trailered 60 miles and dropped his boat in, at that point he has used zero gallons of boat fuel and likely not going to need any additional. Nowhere that I have seen anything about needing to use a nautical chart to calculate the mileage from the host site and the projected fuel consumption, and then apply those calculations to determine the validity of the fishing area. What a ridiculous premise...
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Re: Tales from Basschamps Championship on the Red River
[Re: emorydog]
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10/17/20 03:21 PM
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hopalong
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The rules state that fishing areas must be accessed without the use of additional fuel. The mouth of the Sulphur River is 70 miles from red river south, not knowing the guys boat type but assuming it has a 250, will assume close to 3 hours of running up and back at WOT. A 250 gets 23 miles per hour at WOT in perfect conditions, running the Reds bends are not perfect conditions. So it is very doubtful he could run both directions and up the Sulphur without additional gas.
I would guess, that If he needed additional gas under normal tournament conditions then he violated the rules. Please help me and point out the section of the rules that address the additional fuel rule and how it pertains to trailering. If he trailered 60 miles and dropped his boat in, at that point he has used zero gallons of boat fuel and likely not going to need any additional. Nowhere that I have seen anything about needing to use a nautical chart to calculate the mileage from the host site and the projected fuel consumption, and then apply those calculations to determine the validity of the fishing area. What a ridiculous premise... I have read them a few times when entering big bass tourneys and the one on ray bob when I bought my truck, there is no rule for extra gas. http://www.basschamps.com/rules.cfm
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Re: Tales from Basschamps Championship on the Red River
[Re: Jarrett Latta]
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10/17/20 03:24 PM
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hopalong
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70 miles is easily doable especially if you aren't hammering down wot. That's unfortunate lol, 70 miles in newer boats is easily doable, some in less than an hr. even on the river I would have to guess that 1.5 hrs would be doable and probably 1/4 to 1/3 of a tank of fuel, runnin a sho or new 4 stroke you get a lot of range out of 50 gals of fuel
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Re: Tales from Basschamps Championship on the Red River
[Re: Champion1]
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10/17/20 03:44 PM
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Jigman
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Seems to me all he had to do was run back to weigh in by water answer the question of access by boat ,why wouldnt you do that .
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