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Re: Your opinion on hook size
[Re: Bobbycat]
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10/13/20 03:16 PM
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Ruark
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I would try to use a drop shot rig with 2 small (# 2- 6) J hooks on short (~3”) dropper loops. It is very sensitive rig and allows set the hook very effectively. You can feel even turtle bitings if you keep the tight main line. Just set the hook if you feel that fish (turtle?) pull the line. It works for me great in my shallow creek. At this place, I'd probably use a single drop, since I'm getting bites 10 seconds after it hits bottom. I might try a drop shot next time - I'm curious if I'll get more positive hookups if the fish takes the bait that way instead of when it's lying on the bottom. I'll put a 6" drop about 2 1/2' up. I have some smallish pyramid sinkers that should work. But I'll probably use a #8 treble and CJ's. I would put 4-6” drops about 10-12” up. Under ~30 degree angle casting, the bait will be on the bottom or very close if you keep the line tight. If the bait's resting on the bottom, what's the point in using a drop rig? It's probably 30 degrees. I'm casting out about 35-40 yards.
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Re: Your opinion on hook size
[Re: Bentman63]
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10/13/20 03:19 PM
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Ruark
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I went to Hubbard and got bites as soon as the bait sunk. I couldn't catch them. I was using chicken breast. I put on a small perch hook and started slaying the smallest catfish I had ever caught. They were so small they were like large tadpoles Chicken breast - I thought about using something like that, since I can get it close by. Put a chunk of it on a hook, maybe give it a shot of Baitmate.
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Re: Your opinion on hook size
[Re: Ruark]
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10/13/20 03:28 PM
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Bobbycat
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I would try to use a drop shot rig with 2 small (# 2- 6) J hooks on short (~3”) dropper loops. It is very sensitive rig and allows set the hook very effectively. You can feel even turtle bitings if you keep the tight main line. Just set the hook if you feel that fish (turtle?) pull the line. It works for me great in my shallow creek. At this place, I'd probably use a single drop, since I'm getting bites 10 seconds after it hits bottom. I might try a drop shot next time - I'm curious if I'll get more positive hookups if the fish takes the bait that way instead of when it's lying on the bottom. I'll put a 6" drop about 2 1/2' up. I have some smallish pyramid sinkers that should work. But I'll probably use a #8 treble and CJ's. I would put 4-6” drops about 10-12” up. Under ~30 degree angle casting, the bait will be on the bottom or very close if you keep the line tight. If the bait's resting on the bottom, what's the point in using a drop rig? It's probably 30 degrees. I'm casting out about 35-40 yards. If the line is tight and drop is short the sensitivity of this rig is very high. I could catch even 3-5 “ bluegills and carps on the bottom when I used #8 hooks.
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Re: Your opinion on hook size
[Re: Ruark]
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10/15/20 02:22 PM
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JenMorri88
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to be honest, for me the size of the hooks does not matter much. I've probably tried everything, but somehow all the same, the bait is much more important
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Re: Your opinion on hook size
[Re: Ruark]
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10/17/20 12:26 PM
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littlewheel
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We use #4 treble hooks tied directly to either 20 or 30 lb braid. We catch channels from 6 inches long to 5-8 lbs.
Shannon Wheeler Lake Fork Channel Catfish Guide Cheeseologist at Stubbys Cheesebait 903-987-2315
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Re: Your opinion on hook size
[Re: Ruark]
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10/17/20 06:52 PM
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z289sec
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Treble hooks, #4 will catch any eater size fish, even up to 6-8 lbs. On circle hooks, mostly I use a #6 offset. But occasionally drop to a #5. If I'm drifting, hoping to snag a hogjammer, #8
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Re: Your opinion on hook size
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10/17/20 07:35 PM
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We use #4 treble hooks tied directly to either 20 or 30 lb braid. We catch channels from 6 inches long to 5-8 lbs. Yeah, it is a great solution, but I would prefer mono extension to braid with short dropper loops for easy hook changing.
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Re: Your opinion on hook size
[Re: Ruark]
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10/18/20 02:56 AM
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littlewheel
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I started using the Mustad 4x Kingfish #4 treble hooks. Strong as can be. Clients caught over 200 fish yesterday and changed 2 hooks. Only because they swallowed the hook
Shannon Wheeler Lake Fork Channel Catfish Guide Cheeseologist at Stubbys Cheesebait 903-987-2315
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Re: Your opinion on hook size
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10/19/20 04:00 PM
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We use #4 treble hooks tied directly to either 20 or 30 lb braid. We catch channels from 6 inches long to 5-8 lbs. I wonder how you're fishing that rig, compared to what I was doing. I was using Danny King's on #4 trebles, sitting on the bottom. 12-inches hit them as fast as I could cast them out, but I could only hook about 1 out of 10. Right now I'm thinking of changing to #5 circles and chicken breast.
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Re: Your opinion on hook size
[Re: Ruark]
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10/19/20 04:22 PM
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littlewheel
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We use #4 treble hooks tied directly to either 20 or 30 lb braid. We catch channels from 6 inches long to 5-8 lbs. I wonder how you're fishing that rig, compared to what I was doing. I was using Danny King's on #4 trebles, sitting on the bottom. 12-inches hit them as fast as I could cast them out, but I could only hook about 1 out of 10. Right now I'm thinking of changing to #5 circles and chicken breast. Send me your cell # and I will send you a video on how I am rigged
Shannon Wheeler Lake Fork Channel Catfish Guide Cheeseologist at Stubbys Cheesebait 903-987-2315
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