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 Re: Garage foundation repair
[Re: butch sanders]
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09/30/20 12:25 PM
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TCK73
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i don't know why they build stuff
they know will fail
Because they are all about doing it cheaper than the next guy, and don’t care. The house we built two years ago I believe has a good foundation. The engineer had soil tests done and was test drilled. We ended up with 43 piers that the beams on the slab sit on. They range from 16’ to 28’ deep. It did not add as much costs as one would think.
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Re: Garage foundation repair
[Re: TCK73]
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09/30/20 12:29 PM
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Bob Davis
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i don't know why they build stuff
they know will fail
Because they are all about doing it cheaper than the next guy, and don’t care. The house we built two years ago I believe has a good foundation. The engineer had soil tests done and was test drilled. We ended up with 43 piers that the beams on the slab sit on. They range from 16’ to 28’ deep. It did not add as much costs as one would think. Good for you! This is the way it should be on every new build if the soil is expansive clay.
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Re: Garage foundation repair
[Re: Bob Davis]
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09/30/20 12:32 PM
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hopalong
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my slabs don't shift. 5 lifts to get pad right then this.  ![[Linked Image]](https://texasfishingforum.com/forums/pics/userpics/2020/09/full-33597-68280-1.jpg)
Last edited by hopalong; 09/30/20 12:33 PM.
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Re: Garage foundation repair
[Re: basscaster46]
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09/30/20 12:35 PM
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Bob Davis
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Well, there was only one small section of our house that has not yet had Piers installed and that is the garage. So, guess what sunk 1.6"? Of course the garage. The crew is out here today to install 7 piers to bring up the garage and close the crack in the outside brick. It don't get no funner than this.  What company did you use.? Perma Pier is the best I've seen. They dont skip steps and their crews are courteous and professional. Last time 3 years ago, I also used Crosstown Engineering prior for a reference point and check. Both were terrific.
Foxtrot Juliet Bravo
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Re: Garage foundation repair
[Re: hopalong]
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09/30/20 12:37 PM
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Bob Davis
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my slabs don't shift. 5 lifts to get pad right then this. You do it right Hop! Awesome.
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Re: Garage foundation repair
[Re: Bob Davis]
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09/30/20 12:40 PM
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hopalong
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my slabs don't shift. 5 lifts to get pad right then this. You do it right Hop! Awesome. that one is in ft stockton (man I miss that 72 hiboy). avg was 3 rattlers a day and biggest was about 7'. fun job, well sorta. lol
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Re: Garage foundation repair
[Re: Bob Davis]
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09/30/20 12:53 PM
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hopalong
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not sure about now but back in the 80s/90s slabs were post tensioned a lot in the dfw area, rebar and post tension and your slab should be pretty stable.
the monolithic slabs were best, double pour (stemwalls then slab after) leaves a lot of movement area available.
if you are building new, I suggest 1-1 1/2" rock (road base) compacted instead of sand, sand holds moisture bad, will wash out and can lead to water wicking thru the concrete, the rock lets the area under the slab "breathe" instead of holding water and drying out.
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Re: Garage foundation repair
[Re: Chris B]
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09/30/20 01:57 PM
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Emit R Detsaw
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Which is why if I ever move back to Texas, it won't be in the DFW area. Builders refuse to construct a slab on floating piers because of the added costs. My house in Oak Point cost me 20K. The additional cost for the piers during construction would have been half that. My ex neighbor there has the piers and has lived there for 20 years. Not a single crack that is caused by the foundation dropping. Sounds good on paper but if I build a house with piers and it cost 30k dollars more than my competition’s, who’s house do you think they will buy? I would buy yours in a heartbeat. Is it true that before the foundation is poured it would cost $30K for 40 holes filled with rebar and concrete? Just depends on the depth and the number spec‘ed by the engineer I’m building in Frisco right now and the bottom of the beams are sitting on solid rock. Really no need for piers here. We found out our depth and problem the hard way. Didn't have any visible cracks in the walls, carpet on the floor. One day we have water on the floor/carpet. Turned out to be a leak from the roof caused by a corner of the house settling causing part of the roof to pull away from the rest of the house. House was about 15 years old. When they drove the piers, it was 20 feet down before they hit solid. By the time we finished doing the repairs it was a new roof, exterior painting, fixing the water damage including mold abatement inside the house, 6 piers, and concrete leveling. Insurance only paid for the water damage inside the house.
May you be treated the way you treat other people, today and everyday!
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Re: Garage foundation repair
[Re: Emit R Detsaw]
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09/30/20 02:26 PM
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Bob Davis
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We found out our depth and problem the hard way. Didn't have any visible cracks in the walls, carpet on the floor. One day we have water on the floor/carpet. Turned out to be a leak from the roof caused by a corner of the house settling causing part of the roof to pull away from the rest of the house. House was about 15 years old. When they drove the piers, it was 20 feet down before they hit solid. By the time we finished doing the repairs it was a new roof, exterior painting, fixing the water damage including mold abatement inside the house, 6 piers, and concrete leveling. Insurance only paid for the water damage inside the house.
Yikes. Insurance companies would be bankrupt if they paid for foundation repairs. Yes, I know they will pay for some if the foundation malfunctions due to a water leak, but most foundation work is not covered. The root cause is expansive soil and a building code that does not require piers prior to foundation pour. Money talks, shixt walks. Foundation repair is big business.
Foxtrot Juliet Bravo
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Re: Garage foundation repair
[Re: Bob Davis]
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09/30/20 09:16 PM
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kcb
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I didn't read the 3 pages in this thread. My spin? If I had a do over I would have sold my house when the foundation repairs began and then fixed and bought another home.
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Re: Garage foundation repair
[Re: Bob Davis]
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10/01/20 12:28 AM
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basscaster46
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Cause it is faster to build
I got all day I’m retired
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Re: Garage foundation repair
[Re: basscaster46]
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10/01/20 12:41 PM
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Bob Davis
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Cause it is faster to build Ahhhh.... good point. Sacrificing quality to the gods of quantity. The business model.
Foxtrot Juliet Bravo
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