Do you really expect anything else from him?

The discussion has been fairly reasonable so far. Please don't let it degrade in to personal attacks.

Soggy, by that rationale all poor people should get a pass for dealing drugs and committing drug murders!

Agreed, what the hell does her net worth have to do with being laid up with a wanna be ganster that shoots at cops?

Interesting. That was written back in May. Seems to me that if he shot at the cops after the cops identified themselves attempted murder would be filed and charges filed against him for the girls death as well. Put the blame where the blame should be and a lot what we have now could have been avoided. Just doesn't make sense. Is there body cam footage that support the officers account?

Dang Soggy, that's some crazy thinking there!

Dont participate in criminal activities. Dont knowingly associate with those that do, if you have an interaction with LEO dont act stupid, fight, run etc. If you feel your rights are being violated call a lawyer. If you follow that recipe there is a real good chance that you wont get shot be police. With very few exceptions everyone who gets shot broke one of those rules. The wellness check went bad in fort worth. The police shooting at the dog, the old man shot in his garage and the poor guy eating ice cream on his couch (she wasnt acting as LEO at time) are notable exceptions. 3 of those were not poor and I believe 2 were white.

She may or may not have been poor (drug dealing can be quite profitable), and she was not murdered. Other than that you make a brilliant point.

hey, if yall can make super ridiculous judgmental points so can I. L

I've gotten to the point that I don't pay much attention to any of these types of stories anymore. It doesn't matter what the findings are by the courts, DA, grand jury, or anyone else involved in the judicial process. People still won't be satisfied. It's just an excuse to destroy property and violently attack people at this point.

Read a bunch of comments on the conditions of the two Louisville officers shot last night. Lost track of how many commenters made of point of saying they would pray for the black cop. This is where we're at as a society.

Yes, it seems all of the stuff above (H.Town, BCBass, JPurdue) is part of the rationale. I don’t know if it’s the definitive case or not, but in a 2006 U.S. Supreme Court case (Hudson v. Michigan), there’s ample discussion. Focus of the case was around the Fourth Amendment, knock and announce, illegal entry...etc., but no knock was discussed during oral arguments for the case.

Hudson v. Michigan

I don't know all of the details and I doubt any of us do. What I find interesting is that everyone responds to this as if the police have little or no culpability when, in fact, they chose the rules of engagement. I'm sure a LEO on here can better explain the pros and cons of the military style approach, but It would seem to me they could have detained her and her boyfriend in a much more benign manner and then been able to enter the residence when no one was present. They had to know, or reasonably assume, there we people home at the time of entry. Maybe I'm wrong, but it just seems like they chose the most dangerous approach.

Are you saying that LEOs should change their methods for executing warrants?

I don’t agree with no knock warrants, but the LEOs were doing their job. 100% culpability is on the law breakers. Break the law and you own what happens to you.

Bottom line,if her scum boyfriend had not fired a shot at the police, there’d both be alive today! Decisions have consequences!

unless they get the wrong address or make up evidence to get a warrant.