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Re: Change Lake Athens to a fee to fish lake? [Re: BWL Coast] #13663372 08/10/20 10:04 PM
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100% against. It's a public lake in Texas. I'm certain home owners on every lake in the country are seeing increased boat traffic due to COVID. This is not an isolated issue for lake Athens.

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Re: Change Lake Athens to a fee to fish lake? [Re: BWL Coast] #13663396 08/10/20 10:23 PM
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ask the city of dallas what happened when they tried to do this to ray hubbard. the coe told them they could if they paid them back the money they paid to build the lake.

Re: Change Lake Athens to a fee to fish lake? [Re: Mark Perry] #13663401 08/10/20 10:28 PM
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Originally Posted by Mark Perry
Homeowners on a public complaining about other people fishing "their" lake is like buying a house next to a freeway then complaining other people are driving on it


Its a public resource.
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I'd love to have a no jet-skiing on every lake. It ain't going to happen. I can either find a way to put up with it or stop fishing. It's public waters. The ski-fleas and wake boaters have the same right to public waters as I do.

All of this talk about permits to fish makes me think of Lake McQueeney. How did a publicly funded lake turn into a HOA only lake? (Yes, I know what happened to all of the GBRA lakes)


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Re: Change Lake Athens to a fee to fish lake? [Re: BWL Coast] #13663421 08/10/20 10:41 PM
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Re: Change Lake Athens to a fee to fish lake? [Re: BWL Coast] #13663431 08/10/20 10:47 PM
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The world needs less fees


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Re: Change Lake Athens to a fee to fish lake? [Re: 361V] #13663538 08/11/20 12:15 AM
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Originally Posted by 361V
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I can understand how the home owners feel. Our poor Lake Waco is almost the same way. You work all week then on the weekend you go to the lake and the parking lot is full of boat from the Metro-plex. Every inch of the water is being fished. This is why I don't even go on the weekend any more, and most of the time it takes days for the fishing to come back. And yes they don't add to the local economy.
Respect your opinion but also respectfully I think comparing “rights” between a lake owned(and managed by) the Army Corps of Engineers and a lake owned by the local water municipality(Athens Municipal Water District) as a bad comparison. True “apples to oranges”. Prolly just me.


I think 361 has made a point that many have overlooked or didn't realize; the lake wasn't built by the state or the corps, it was built by the local water company. So, to my understanding that means that unless you pay Athens water bills your taxes haven't paid for anything but the occasional stocking from the TPWD hatchery up the hill so I don't understand the sense of entitlement to fish there for free.


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Re: Change Lake Athens to a fee to fish lake? [Re: Outdoordude] #13663650 08/11/20 01:45 AM
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Originally Posted by Outdoordude
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Originally Posted by harvey walker
I can understand how the home owners feel. Our poor Lake Waco is almost the same way. You work all week then on the weekend you go to the lake and the parking lot is full of boat from the Metro-plex. Every inch of the water is being fished. This is why I don't even go on the weekend any more, and most of the time it takes days for the fishing to come back. And yes they don't add to the local economy.
Respect your opinion but also respectfully I think comparing “rights” between a lake owned(and managed by) the Army Corps of Engineers and a lake owned by the local water municipality(Athens Municipal Water District) as a bad comparison. True “apples to oranges”. Prolly just me.


I think 361 has made a point that many have overlooked or didn't realize; the lake wasn't built by the state or the corps, it was built by the local water company. So, to my understanding that means that unless you pay Athens water bills your taxes haven't paid for anything but the occasional stocking from the TPWD hatchery up the hill so I don't understand the sense of entitlement to fish there for free.



No entitlement here......our tax dollars have helped stock it.

https://tpwd.texas.gov/fishboat/fish/action/stock_bywater.php?WB_code=0031

Re: Change Lake Athens to a fee to fish lake? [Re: Outdoordude] #13663671 08/11/20 02:07 AM
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Originally Posted by Outdoordude
Originally Posted by 361V
Originally Posted by harvey walker
I can understand how the home owners feel. Our poor Lake Waco is almost the same way. You work all week then on the weekend you go to the lake and the parking lot is full of boat from the Metro-plex. Every inch of the water is being fished. This is why I don't even go on the weekend any more, and most of the time it takes days for the fishing to come back. And yes they don't add to the local economy.
Respect your opinion but also respectfully I think comparing “rights” between a lake owned(and managed by) the Army Corps of Engineers and a lake owned by the local water municipality(Athens Municipal Water District) as a bad comparison. True “apples to oranges”. Prolly just me.


I think 361 has made a point that many have overlooked or didn't realize; the lake wasn't built by the state or the corps, it was built by the local water company. So, to my understanding that means that unless you pay Athens water bills your taxes haven't paid for anything but the occasional stocking from the TPWD hatchery up the hill so I don't understand the sense of entitlement to fish there for free.



You just gave the answer, it's a good bass fishery BECAUSE of our tax dollars hammer bang


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Re: Change Lake Athens to a fee to fish lake? [Re: Frank the Tank] #13663765 08/11/20 03:26 AM
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Originally Posted by Frank the Tank
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Originally Posted by 361V
Originally Posted by harvey walker
I can understand how the home owners feel. Our poor Lake Waco is almost the same way. You work all week then on the weekend you go to the lake and the parking lot is full of boat from the Metro-plex. Every inch of the water is being fished. This is why I don't even go on the weekend any more, and most of the time it takes days for the fishing to come back. And yes they don't add to the local economy.
Respect your opinion but also respectfully I think comparing “rights” between a lake owned(and managed by) the Army Corps of Engineers and a lake owned by the local water municipality(Athens Municipal Water District) as a bad comparison. True “apples to oranges”. Prolly just me.


I think 361 has made a point that many have overlooked or didn't realize; the lake wasn't built by the state or the corps, it was built by the local water company. So, to my understanding that means that unless you pay Athens water bills your taxes haven't paid for anything but the occasional stocking from the TPWD hatchery up the hill so I don't understand the sense of entitlement to fish there for free.



You just gave the answer, it's a good bass fishery BECAUSE of our tax dollars hammer bang


There's been a misunderstanding of my point. TPWD manages the fishery (that includes the fish, the habitat and the anglers). They have nothing to do with maintenance of facilities, boat ramps, parking lots, docks on that lake. My position is that it would be reasonable to charge a fee that goes directly towards access point maintenance and improvement for a place that gets that much traffic. I haven't said anything about restricting public access to the lake.


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Re: Change Lake Athens to a fee to fish lake? [Re: BWL Coast] #13663770 08/11/20 03:28 AM
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As long as pubic access is unlimited, I'd pay to play.


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Re: Change Lake Athens to a fee to fish lake? [Re: Tjbev13] #13663784 08/11/20 03:58 AM
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Originally Posted by Tjbev13
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Originally Posted by harvey walker
I can understand how the home owners feel. Our poor Lake Waco is almost the same way. You work all week then on the weekend you go to the lake and the parking lot is full of boat from the Metro-plex. Every inch of the water is being fished. This is why I don't even go on the weekend any more, and most of the time it takes days for the fishing to come back. And yes they don't add to the local economy.


I find it hard to believe metro-plex anglers are really chomping at the bit to go fish Lake Waco.



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Re: Change Lake Athens to a fee to fish lake? [Re: BWL Coast] #13663788 08/11/20 04:08 AM
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In all seriousness I would be fine with a small $5ish ramp fee to help maintain facilities if they truly go to the ramp and maintaining of those facilities. Other than that I would be a hard no

Re: Change Lake Athens to a fee to fish lake? [Re: Jeremyworm] #13663796 08/11/20 04:28 AM
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In all seriousness I would be fine with a small $5ish ramp fee to help maintain facilities if they truly go to the ramp and maintaining of those facilities. Other than that I would be a hard no



Agreed. Not to pad the pockets of the lake side owners. No


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Re: Change Lake Athens to a fee to fish lake? [Re: BWL Coast] #13663801 08/11/20 04:38 AM
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Sounds like Karl has been listening to his wife Karen and its rubbed off on him. breakdance

Re: Change Lake Athens to a fee to fish lake? [Re: BWL Coast] #13663806 08/11/20 05:08 AM
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