texasfishingforum.com logo
Main Menu
Advertisement
Affiliates
Advertisement
Newest Members
MarkMo19, Merkdog, Walden Bass, txangler32, wsmith225
114661 Registered Users
Top Posters(All Time)
TexDawg 100,572
hopalong 94,321
Pilothawk 80,698
John175☮ 78,656
Bigbob_FTW 71,211
JDavis7873 67,401
Derek 🐝 66,104
Mark Perry 62,200
Forum Statistics
Forums61
Topics1,140,907
Posts15,586,738
Members139,661
Most Online36,273
Jan 23rd, 2013
Print Thread
Lake Turnover #13658060 08/06/20 01:01 AM
Joined: Nov 2010
Posts: 4,420
R
RJF1423 Offline OP
TFF Team Angler
OP Offline
TFF Team Angler
R
Joined: Nov 2010
Posts: 4,420
Is it possible to have a lake turnover this early in the season?

I was on Oak Creek this past weekend and the fishing was awful. 2 fish in 3 days. We fished pretty hard too. The whole time we found bubbles coming up all over the lake. Water clarity was fine. I couldn't tell for sure because I don't fish in the late summer or fall all that often. I have seen a lake turnover once and I remember it being awful fishing as well.

Our 3rd day on the lake, Sunday, it was slick calm and while running around the lake there were bubbles coming up everywhere. I went and graphed some offshore spots and I never found a thermocline. I am convinced we experienced some kind of turnover but I just didn't think it would be possible this early and with only a small "cool" front as the catalyst.

Moritz Chevrolet - 9101 Camp Bowie W Blvd, Fort Worth, TX - Monte Coon (817) 696-2003
Re: Lake Turnover [Re: RJF1423] #13658270 08/06/20 10:51 AM
Joined: Apr 2017
Posts: 4,948
tmd11111 Online Content
TFF Team Angler
Online Content
TFF Team Angler
Joined: Apr 2017
Posts: 4,948
Oak Creek has its days. Fished a tournament there last month, 30 people and I took 3rd with 3 fish for just shy of 10#. Only 1 person had a limit. Been there other times where 5 for 15 wasnt in the top 10.

Re: Lake Turnover [Re: RJF1423] #13658354 08/06/20 12:55 PM
Joined: Jun 2010
Posts: 4,297
David Welcher Online Content
TFF Team Angler
Online Content
TFF Team Angler
Joined: Jun 2010
Posts: 4,297
Full moon weekend in early August means the fish are feeding at night. Same conditions at Ray Roberts both Saturday and Sunday and like you said we saw tons of bubbles coming up everywhere which is just a common thing, it's just that when it's calm you can see them. Lake turnover isn't going to happen till November on most Texas lakes.

Last edited by David Welcher; 08/06/20 12:56 PM.
Re: Lake Turnover [Re: RJF1423] #13658388 08/06/20 01:27 PM
Joined: Jul 2011
Posts: 7,312
T
the skipper Offline
TFF Celebrity
Offline
TFF Celebrity
T
Joined: Jul 2011
Posts: 7,312
It can happen.

Re: Lake Turnover [Re: RJF1423] #13658445 08/06/20 02:28 PM
Joined: Apr 2009
Posts: 2,570
Outdoordude Offline
Extreme Angler
Offline
Extreme Angler
Joined: Apr 2009
Posts: 2,570
A turnover is extremely unlikely. It takes a lot of cooling or a huge inflow of water/mixing to break thermal stratification in a lake.

There very well could have been an algae bloom crash. Those are natural and do sporadically happen during the late summer. The water will appear much clearer after a crash and the fishing usually suffers for a week or two. During a bloom crash dissolved oxygen levels can decline quite a bit, fish don't eat much when they're struggling to breathe. The bubbles could be from gasses produced by the decomposing algae at the bottom.

Not saying that's what happened, but it does line up. If that's what happened, a new bloom will establish in a couple weeks and things should go back to normal.


Scott Jones
Re: Lake Turnover [Re: David Welcher] #13658457 08/06/20 02:32 PM
Joined: Nov 2010
Posts: 4,420
R
RJF1423 Offline OP
TFF Team Angler
OP Offline
TFF Team Angler
R
Joined: Nov 2010
Posts: 4,420
Originally Posted by David Welcher
Full moon weekend in early August means the fish are feeding at night. Same conditions at Ray Roberts both Saturday and Sunday and like you said we saw tons of bubbles coming up everywhere which is just a common thing, it's just that when it's calm you can see them. Lake turnover isn't going to happen till November on most Texas lakes.

I have seen bubbles before. Just not the level of this magnitude. Why do you think the thermocline didn't show up on my graph then? I have fished it quite a bit this summer and every time I have seen the thermocline show up in around 17-20ft of water.

Re: Lake Turnover [Re: RJF1423] #13658493 08/06/20 03:06 PM
Joined: Jun 2010
Posts: 4,905
JacksonBean Offline
TFF Team Angler
Offline
TFF Team Angler
Joined: Jun 2010
Posts: 4,905

I’m out of town but wasn’t it “cold” and windy yesterday?

That can disturb the strata.


[Linked Image]
Re: Lake Turnover [Re: RJF1423] #13658503 08/06/20 03:19 PM
Joined: Dec 2003
Posts: 22,679
Allison1 Online Content
TFF Guru
Online Content
TFF Guru
Joined: Dec 2003
Posts: 22,679
I'm sure you are not seeing a turnover.

You can double check my with your graph. Get in deep water and turn the sensitivity up.
You should find a point from 20 to 60 feet depending on water clarity where there is a distinct line on your graph. There will be fish above it but few under it.

It takes water temps in the mid 70's before you can start looking for a turnover.
Rain usually does not affect lake temps enough to force a turnover until the lake is close to that point or there is a lot of rain.

Re: Lake Turnover [Re: Allison1] #13658673 08/06/20 06:14 PM
Joined: Nov 2010
Posts: 4,420
R
RJF1423 Offline OP
TFF Team Angler
OP Offline
TFF Team Angler
R
Joined: Nov 2010
Posts: 4,420
Originally Posted by Allison1
I'm sure you are not seeing a turnover.

You can double check my with your graph. Get in deep water and turn the sensitivity up.
You should find a point from 20 to 60 feet depending on water clarity where there is a distinct line on your graph. There will be fish above it but few under it.

It takes water temps in the mid 70's before you can start looking for a turnover.
Rain usually does not affect lake temps enough to force a turnover until the lake is close to that point or there is a lot of rain.


I did. I am well aware of how to find the thermocline on the graph. It has always been there every time I have fished it this summer. It was not existent when I scanned around this past Sunday. I couldn't believe it either.

Re: Lake Turnover [Re: RJF1423] #13658839 08/06/20 08:54 PM
Joined: Apr 2009
Posts: 2,570
Outdoordude Offline
Extreme Angler
Offline
Extreme Angler
Joined: Apr 2009
Posts: 2,570
That's odd. I'd be interested to see what a temperature probe would read at depth. Not being smart ---, just stating; there have been published studies that measured summer stratification in Florida lakes being almost unaffected by strong hurricanes. It takes a lot of energy to mix stratified water. Might drop a note to the tpwd district biologist to see if they've been on the lake recently.


Scott Jones
Previous Thread
Index
Next Thread

© 1998-2019 OUTDOOR SITES NETWORK all rights reserved USA and Worldwide
Powered by UBB.threads™ PHP Forum Software 7.7.3