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Re: Spraying grass
[Re: Stompy]
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07/15/20 09:34 PM
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Ok guys, here's what they're officially saying. WEST·CENTRAL·TEXAS·MUNICIPAL·WATER·DISTRICT 410 Hickory Street Abilene, TX 79601 Phone 325-673-8254 Fax 325-673-8272 www.wctmwd.org AQUATIC VEGETATION HUBBARD CREEK RESERVOIR New Update **07/09/2020** The District continues to receive comments and inquiries concerning the summer Hydrilla bloom at Hubbard Creek Reservoir (HCR). As in previous years, we are in regular contact with Texas Parks and Wildlife Department (TPWD). TPWD Inland Fisheries conducts annual hydrilla coverage surveys. They documented extensive coverage during the 2017-2019 surveys. To date, no treatments of Hydrilla have been conducted at the reservoir. TPWD and the District have identified public access areas including HCR boat ramps, the public swimming area, and two areas used commonly for boating corridors as candidates for treatment. Chemical treatment of an entire reservoir is generally cost prohibitive and has significant impact on the reservoir’s fish population. Thus the TPWD Inland Fisheries has been adamant that any possible hydrilla treatments for HCR be to control access issues and would not be done at the expense of the fish habitat and angling. This year, with prudent guidance from TPWD, a decision has been made to treat the major boating lanes, public boat ramps, and the swimming area at HCR. These treatments will be made with an EPA/TCEQ approved aquatic herbicide for public water supply reservoirs. In addition, the raw water intake for our four public water supplies is over 3,000 feet from the nearest treated area, meaning that if there were any impact to water quality, which is not the case according to both the Federal and State agencies, such impact would be attenuated by dilution. The treatment date for all proposed areas is scheduled for Tuesday, July 21, 2020. Lake lot owners still have the option to treat areas around their ramp, dock, or swimming areas with chemical herbicide or other methods. However, any mitigation will require submission of a a TPWD Aquatic Vegetation Treatment Proposal and approval. Licensed commercial applicators will be required for performing any proposed chemical treatments while following the guidelines provided by TPWD. Proposals will no longer be accepted by TPWD for 2020 after October 31st. Per TPWD guidelines, proposed treatments are limited to a 10-ft radius around docks and a 15 linear foot boat lane from dock bays. Property shorelines may be treated out to a 25-linear ft fringe from shoreline’s edge or a max of 4 ft deep. These guidelines are expected to improve swimming and boating access while maintaining fish and wildlife habitat. For additional information, see: https://tpwd.texas.gov/landwater/water/environconcerns/nuisance_plants/ For the permit application, click on Appendix C in the above link. For a list of licensed aquatic chemical applicators in Texas: http://www.texasaquaculture.org/PDF/Avail_List.pdfRead the first line, people keep bugging them about the grass. If WE bugged them as much or more on out keeping the grass they may not spray it.
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Re: Spraying grass
[Re: 9094]
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07/15/20 10:32 PM
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ezbassin
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THEY NEVER LEARN FROM THEIR MISTAKES.
IDIOTS
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Re: Spraying grass
[Re: the skipper]
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07/15/20 10:43 PM
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Ok guys, here's what they're officially saying. WEST·CENTRAL·TEXAS·MUNICIPAL·WATER·DISTRICT 410 Hickory Street Abilene, TX 79601 Phone 325-673-8254 Fax 325-673-8272 www.wctmwd.org AQUATIC VEGETATION HUBBARD CREEK RESERVOIR New Update **07/09/2020** The District continues to receive comments and inquiries concerning the summer Hydrilla bloom at Hubbard Creek Reservoir (HCR). As in previous years, we are in regular contact with Texas Parks and Wildlife Department (TPWD). TPWD Inland Fisheries conducts annual hydrilla coverage surveys. They documented extensive coverage during the 2017-2019 surveys. To date, no treatments of Hydrilla have been conducted at the reservoir. TPWD and the District have identified public access areas including HCR boat ramps, the public swimming area, and two areas used commonly for boating corridors as candidates for treatment. Chemical treatment of an entire reservoir is generally cost prohibitive and has significant impact on the reservoir’s fish population. Thus the TPWD Inland Fisheries has been adamant that any possible hydrilla treatments for HCR be to control access issues and would not be done at the expense of the fish habitat and angling. This year, with prudent guidance from TPWD, a decision has been made to treat the major boating lanes, public boat ramps, and the swimming area at HCR. These treatments will be made with an EPA/TCEQ approved aquatic herbicide for public water supply reservoirs. In addition, the raw water intake for our four public water supplies is over 3,000 feet from the nearest treated area, meaning that if there were any impact to water quality, which is not the case according to both the Federal and State agencies, such impact would be attenuated by dilution. The treatment date for all proposed areas is scheduled for Tuesday, July 21, 2020. Lake lot owners still have the option to treat areas around their ramp, dock, or swimming areas with chemical herbicide or other methods. However, any mitigation will require submission of a a TPWD Aquatic Vegetation Treatment Proposal and approval. Licensed commercial applicators will be required for performing any proposed chemical treatments while following the guidelines provided by TPWD. Proposals will no longer be accepted by TPWD for 2020 after October 31st. Per TPWD guidelines, proposed treatments are limited to a 10-ft radius around docks and a 15 linear foot boat lane from dock bays. Property shorelines may be treated out to a 25-linear ft fringe from shoreline’s edge or a max of 4 ft deep. These guidelines are expected to improve swimming and boating access while maintaining fish and wildlife habitat. For additional information, see: https://tpwd.texas.gov/landwater/water/environconcerns/nuisance_plants/ For the permit application, click on Appendix C in the above link. For a list of licensed aquatic chemical applicators in Texas: http://www.texasaquaculture.org/PDF/Avail_List.pdfRead the first line, people keep bugging them about the grass. If WE bugged them as much or more on out keeping the grass they may not spray it. I wish that were true but I know two WCT!WD board members very well and we had a strong effort from fisherman out here to get them not to do this. He told me he was amazed at how many fisherman sent emails, letters and made phone calls compared to the very Few property owners that had complained. I am a property owner on the lake and have attended a couple of board meetings and they simply would not allow anyone to speak and could have cared less about fishermen. The only person who would listen was the TPWD biologists. He has tried to assure me and others that they were not going to kill much grass. But also admits that Past history is not all that good where TPWD sprayed grass.
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Re: Spraying grass
[Re: 9094]
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07/16/20 12:45 AM
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the skipper
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Ok guys, here's what they're officially saying. WEST·CENTRAL·TEXAS·MUNICIPAL·WATER·DISTRICT 410 Hickory Street Abilene, TX 79601 Phone 325-673-8254 Fax 325-673-8272 www.wctmwd.org AQUATIC VEGETATION HUBBARD CREEK RESERVOIR New Update **07/09/2020** The District continues to receive comments and inquiries concerning the summer Hydrilla bloom at Hubbard Creek Reservoir (HCR). As in previous years, we are in regular contact with Texas Parks and Wildlife Department (TPWD). TPWD Inland Fisheries conducts annual hydrilla coverage surveys. They documented extensive coverage during the 2017-2019 surveys. To date, no treatments of Hydrilla have been conducted at the reservoir. TPWD and the District have identified public access areas including HCR boat ramps, the public swimming area, and two areas used commonly for boating corridors as candidates for treatment. Chemical treatment of an entire reservoir is generally cost prohibitive and has significant impact on the reservoir’s fish population. Thus the TPWD Inland Fisheries has been adamant that any possible hydrilla treatments for HCR be to control access issues and would not be done at the expense of the fish habitat and angling. This year, with prudent guidance from TPWD, a decision has been made to treat the major boating lanes, public boat ramps, and the swimming area at HCR. These treatments will be made with an EPA/TCEQ approved aquatic herbicide for public water supply reservoirs. In addition, the raw water intake for our four public water supplies is over 3,000 feet from the nearest treated area, meaning that if there were any impact to water quality, which is not the case according to both the Federal and State agencies, such impact would be attenuated by dilution. The treatment date for all proposed areas is scheduled for Tuesday, July 21, 2020. Lake lot owners still have the option to treat areas around their ramp, dock, or swimming areas with chemical herbicide or other methods. However, any mitigation will require submission of a a TPWD Aquatic Vegetation Treatment Proposal and approval. Licensed commercial applicators will be required for performing any proposed chemical treatments while following the guidelines provided by TPWD. Proposals will no longer be accepted by TPWD for 2020 after October 31st. Per TPWD guidelines, proposed treatments are limited to a 10-ft radius around docks and a 15 linear foot boat lane from dock bays. Property shorelines may be treated out to a 25-linear ft fringe from shoreline’s edge or a max of 4 ft deep. These guidelines are expected to improve swimming and boating access while maintaining fish and wildlife habitat. For additional information, see: https://tpwd.texas.gov/landwater/water/environconcerns/nuisance_plants/ For the permit application, click on Appendix C in the above link. For a list of licensed aquatic chemical applicators in Texas: http://www.texasaquaculture.org/PDF/Avail_List.pdfRead the first line, people keep bugging them about the grass. If WE bugged them as much or more on out keeping the grass they may not spray it. I wish that were true but I know two WCT!WD board members very well and we had a strong effort from fisherman out here to get them not to do this. He told me he was amazed at how many fisherman sent emails, letters and made phone calls compared to the very Few property owners that had complained. I am a property owner on the lake and have attended a couple of board meetings and they simply would not allow anyone to speak and could have cared less about fishermen. The only person who would listen was the TPWD biologists. He has tried to assure me and others that they were not going to kill much grass. But also admits that Past history is not all that good where TPWD sprayed grass. Well, I hope they figure out how to fix their past screw ups. Thanks for going to the meetings and being vocal
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Re: Spraying grass
[Re: 9094]
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07/29/20 08:12 PM
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update? did they kill all the fish?
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Re: Spraying grass
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07/29/20 09:02 PM
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update? did they kill all the fish? Have they sprayed the grass even?
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Re: Spraying grass
[Re: 9094]
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07/29/20 09:32 PM
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was supposed to be on the 21st
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Re: Spraying grass
[Re: 9094]
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07/29/20 11:36 PM
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You can kiss your hydrilla goodbye. Someone that lives up there come back to us in a year and tell us how well they controlled the grass.
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Re: Spraying grass
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07/30/20 01:20 PM
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Saw a post from some spraying on Conroe recently and lots of small bass floating after they went through. Pretty eye opening
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Re: Spraying grass
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07/30/20 06:38 PM
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Re: Spraying grass
[Re: 9094]
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07/30/20 06:41 PM
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bring some to fork, puh-leeeeez!
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Re: Spraying grass
[Re: 9094]
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07/30/20 07:04 PM
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what ever is used it will destroy the fishing God help we waited years for it to come back and the ))*(&^&&^)_+)+_(_ are killing it .I hope your happy Breckenridge you just lost a lot of $ when the fisherman leave. you can close the cafe.s and the hotels you want need them anymore
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Re: Spraying grass
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07/30/20 07:14 PM
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what ever is used it will destroy the fishing God help we waited years for it to come back and the ))*(&^&&^)_+)+_(_ are killing it .I hope your happy Breckenridge you just lost a lot of $ when the fisherman leave. you can close the cafe.s and the hotels you want need them anymore Yep
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Re: Spraying grass
[Re: 9094]
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07/30/20 08:04 PM
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Someone posted a video of them spraying grass along the bank on the north end of Conroe earlier this week. Guy pick up a couple of small dead bass behind them.
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Re: Spraying grass
[Re: 206champion]
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07/30/20 09:48 PM
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update? did they kill all the fish? Have they sprayed the grass even? Yes they sprayed the grass and as figured they sprayed about 3x what they said their plan was. No dead fish but the part of the lake they sprayed, which is the better fishing part the bite is dead for sure. Grass is disappearing where they sprayed.
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