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Re: Bubba Wallace
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06/25/20 09:58 PM
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wonder why no one in the media has the guts to publish how many blacks were hanged by whites in past 150 years compared to how many whites have been murdered by blacks.....bet it is easily 5000 to 1 and may be even higher....just another example of ignoring reality and trying to inject racism into everything..........
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Re: Bubba Wallace
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06/25/20 10:30 PM
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A noose wasn't only used in the south , it was the leading form of punishment in the west. I say that to make the point that the first thing that comes to my mind when I hear of or see a noose is the Hanging of Tom Horn in the square in Ol' Cheyenne. I don't think of lynchings in the south at all, so just maybe the person that tied the rope may not have even considered the relationship between race and nooses.
The insistence that it was a "straight up noose" still doesn't translate to lynching..........well that is unless you want it to for your "cause" you are obviously not a Black Person. Was Tom Horn sentenced by a judge or just grabbed up out of his bed by a mob and hung from a tree? No I am not a black person. Tom Horn was framed by the ranchers that hired him to protect their stock from rustlers. so you are telling me that any black person automatically thinks of the scenario that you outlined? If so , is there data on how many times that actually happened?
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Re: Bubba Wallace
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06/25/20 10:40 PM
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A noose wasn't only used in the south , it was the leading form of punishment in the west. I say that to make the point that the first thing that comes to my mind when I hear of or see a noose is the Hanging of Tom Horn in the square in Ol' Cheyenne. I don't think of lynchings in the south at all, so just maybe the person that tied the rope may not have even considered the relationship between race and nooses.
The insistence that it was a "straight up noose" still doesn't translate to lynching..........well that is unless you want it to for your "cause" you are obviously not a Black Person. Was Tom Horn sentenced by a judge or just grabbed up out of his bed by a mob and hung from a tree? There were plenty of lynchings in the United States and I am sure most were spontaneous acts where people were “grabbed up by a mob and hung from a tree”. Not really unusual for horse thieves, murders, or rapist...maybe even card cheats. Black people do not have a lock on poor treatment in the old days, but most people have moved on. So, back to the races. In my opinion, NASCAR has done poor job of minimizing damage and look to me like they first overreacted and now are clumsily trying to explain what happened. As for me, I believe the handling of this fiasco has set NASCAR back decades and has made a lot of drivers, teams, and NASCAR talking heads and apologist look amateurish and just plain stupid. Formula 1, Indycar, and any other sport can not happen to soon for me.
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Re: Bubba Wallace
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06/26/20 01:36 AM
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A noose wasn't only used in the south , it was the leading form of punishment in the west. I say that to make the point that the first thing that comes to my mind when I hear of or see a noose is the Hanging of Tom Horn in the square in Ol' Cheyenne. I don't think of lynchings in the south at all, so just maybe the person that tied the rope may not have even considered the relationship between race and nooses.
The insistence that it was a "straight up noose" still doesn't translate to lynching..........well that is unless you want it to for your "cause" you are obviously not a Black Person. Was Tom Horn sentenced by a judge or just grabbed up out of his bed by a mob and hung from a tree? There were plenty of lynchings in the United States and I am sure most were spontaneous acts where people were “grabbed up by a mob and hung from a tree”. Not really unusual for horse thieves, murders, or rapist...maybe even card cheats. Black people do not have a lock on poor treatment in the old days, but most people have moved on. So, back to the races. In my opinion, NASCAR has done poor job of minimizing damage and look to me like they first overreacted and now are clumsily trying to explain what happened. As for me, I believe the handling of this fiasco has set NASCAR back decades and has made a lot of drivers, teams, and NASCAR talking heads and apologist look amateurish and just plain stupid. Formula 1, Indycar, and any other sport can not happen to soon for me. Your last comment speaks to the very point i`m making. How many of the afore mentioned lynchings were guilty of nothing more than having a different skin color? You are ignorant on this subject
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Re: Bubba Wallace
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06/26/20 12:11 PM
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A noose wasn't only used in the south , it was the leading form of punishment in the west. I say that to make the point that the first thing that comes to my mind when I hear of or see a noose is the Hanging of Tom Horn in the square in Ol' Cheyenne. I don't think of lynchings in the south at all, so just maybe the person that tied the rope may not have even considered the relationship between race and nooses.
The insistence that it was a "straight up noose" still doesn't translate to lynching..........well that is unless you want it to for your "cause" you are obviously not a Black Person. Was Tom Horn sentenced by a judge or just grabbed up out of his bed by a mob and hung from a tree? There were plenty of lynchings in the United States and I am sure most were spontaneous acts where people were “grabbed up by a mob and hung from a tree”. Not really unusual for horse thieves, murders, or rapist...maybe even card cheats. Black people do not have a lock on poor treatment in the old days, but most people have moved on. So, back to the races. In my opinion, NASCAR has done poor job of minimizing damage and look to me like they first overreacted and now are clumsily trying to explain what happened. As for me, I believe the handling of this fiasco has set NASCAR back decades and has made a lot of drivers, teams, and NASCAR talking heads and apologist look amateurish and just plain stupid. Formula 1, Indycar, and any other sport can not happen to soon for me. Your last comment speaks to the very point i`m making. How many of the afore mentioned lynchings were guilty of nothing more than having a different skin color? You are ignorant on this subject so or you. most blacks were hung for crimes. You may make the argument they may or may not have gotten a trial.
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Re: Bubba Wallace
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06/26/20 12:54 PM
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The crazy thing is that only black people were hung, never white people.
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Re: Bubba Wallace
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06/26/20 01:10 PM
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The crazy thing is that only black people were hung, never white people. *cough* http://law2.umkc.edu/faculty/projects/ftrials/shipp/lynchingsstate.htmlLynchings: By State and Race, 1882-1968 * State White Black Total Alabama 48 299 347 Arizona 31 0 31 Arkansas 58 226 284 California 41 2 43 Colorado 65 3 68 Delaware 0 1 1 Florida 25 257 282 Georgia 39 492 531 Idaho 20 0 20 Illinois 15 19 34 Indiana 33 14 47 Iowa 17 2 19 Kansas 35 19 54 Kentucky 63 142 205 Louisiana 56 335 391 Maine 1 0 1 Maryland 2 27 29 Michigan 7 1 8 Minnesota 5 4 9 Mississippi 42 539 581 Missouri 53 69 122 Montana 82 2 84 Nebraska 52 5 57 Nevada 6 0 6 New Jersey 1 1 2 New Mexico 33 3 36 New York 1 1 2 North Carolina 15 86 101 North Dakota 13 3 16 Ohio 10 16 26 Oklahoma 82 40 122 Oregon 20 1 21 Pennsylvania 2 6 8 South Carolina 4 156 160 South Dakota 27 0 27 Tennessee 47 204 251 Texas 141 352 493 Utah 6 2 8 Vermont 1 0 1 Virginia 17 83 100 Washington 25 1 26 West Virginia 20 28 48 Wisconsin 6 0 6 Wyoming 30 5 35 Total 1,297 3,446 4,743 *Statistics provided by the Archives at Tuskegee Institute.
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Re: Bubba Wallace
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06/26/20 01:11 PM
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Re: Bubba Wallace
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06/26/20 01:14 PM
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Lynched whites were generally Republican and lynched for their opposition to Dem racist policies and lynching of blacks.
Seems very similar to today's Dems who strive to keep blacks "on the farm" with destruction of the black family structure through welfare and other Democratic controlling policies! They then hide their sins by screaming racism while pointing at others.
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Re: Bubba Wallace
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06/26/20 01:23 PM
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A noose wasn't only used in the south , it was the leading form of punishment in the west. I say that to make the point that the first thing that comes to my mind when I hear of or see a noose is the Hanging of Tom Horn in the square in Ol' Cheyenne. I don't think of lynchings in the south at all, so just maybe the person that tied the rope may not have even considered the relationship between race and nooses.
The insistence that it was a "straight up noose" still doesn't translate to lynching..........well that is unless you want it to for your "cause" you are obviously not a Black Person. Was Tom Horn sentenced by a judge or just grabbed up out of his bed by a mob and hung from a tree? There were plenty of lynchings in the United States and I am sure most were spontaneous acts where people were “grabbed up by a mob and hung from a tree”. Not really unusual for horse thieves, murders, or rapist...maybe even card cheats. Black people do not have a lock on poor treatment in the old days, but most people have moved on. So, back to the races. In my opinion, NASCAR has done poor job of minimizing damage and look to me like they first overreacted and now are clumsily trying to explain what happened. As for me, I believe the handling of this fiasco has set NASCAR back decades and has made a lot of drivers, teams, and NASCAR talking heads and apologist look amateurish and just plain stupid. Formula 1, Indycar, and any other sport can not happen to soon for me. Your last comment speaks to the very point i`m making. How many of the afore mentioned lynchings were guilty of nothing more than having a different skin color? You are ignorant on this subject there were a lot of uncalled for lynchings along with some for crimes committed, it was what it was but realize that in the south the lynchings were carried out by democrats primarily, reconstruction and what followed in the south caused a lot of bad feelings after the war. democrats started and are still heavily involved in the KKK, planned parenthood was started and to this day is aimed at "managing" black people (look up the stats on who benefits most from their abortions). a lot of things went wrong back when this country was formed and as it grew, learn from history or repeat it but move on either way as the past can not be changed. egging on rioters/looters/statue destruction/harming others, cops are all being done by the left, who exactly is benefiting? why do you think the left keeps ranting about how bad blacks have it in this country and have been since lbj? yet it took republicans to pass voting and equal rights laws back then. what I see is the black population being played again by the left, being lied to to cause a situation they can use for political gain, this has not been about floyd for weeks now. footnote, I have no doubt there were a lot of white cowboys lynched for no good reason other than being accused of theft etc.
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Re: Bubba Wallace
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06/26/20 01:59 PM
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Re: Bubba Wallace
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06/26/20 03:40 PM
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Outstanding example of the Dems trying to put their foot on a black man's neck who is pulling himself up by his own bootstraps.
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