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Re: Physics of the C-rig
[Re: Frank the Tank]
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06/24/20 02:08 PM
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Frank the Tank
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Good stuff guys, I will do some experimenting. I think I have a 5/16 oz weight on and need to upsize. Thanks
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Re: Physics of the C-rig
[Re: Frank the Tank]
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06/24/20 02:20 PM
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Tx Tree Grower
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The bait you're throwing on a C-rig has a lot to do with casting distance. A fluke style bait will cast much further than something like a full size brush hog. I would play with different baits before I started messing with the entire setup. Absolutely true. Things like big curly tail worms and the magnum flukes will REALLY change the way a c rig casts. It can be a huge difference in casting distance. Pegging the weight will help on those big batis. However, I usually just end up adjusting the boat position.
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Re: Physics of the C-rig
[Re: Frank the Tank]
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06/24/20 03:55 PM
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ZX4545
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hook, leader (48" max), swivel, stopper, bead, 3/4+ tungsten
There is a place for a "finesse" c-rig with a 1/4 - 1/2oz weight shallower however
Last edited by M_Mayben; 06/24/20 03:58 PM.
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Re: Physics of the C-rig
[Re: Frank the Tank]
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06/24/20 04:06 PM
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BCBassCat
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What action and length rod are you guys throwing the heavy rigs on? I know you want a high ratio reel to take up line faster.
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Re: Physics of the C-rig
[Re: BCBassCat]
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06/24/20 04:26 PM
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WAWI
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What action and length rod are you guys throwing the heavy rigs on? I know you want a high ratio reel to take up line faster. Most time I'm using dobyns 784, I have used 804 but it's a beast and I dont like it for long days.
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Re: Physics of the C-rig
[Re: Frank the Tank]
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06/24/20 05:52 PM
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WLBDallas
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ALX The Dragger is a stud C-Rig Rod. Also, use a Carolina Keeper, rather than a swivel. You can adjust your leader length very quickly. Biggest point is use the weight you need to get it to the bottom and no more. If you have a good rod and they thump it, you'll know. Also, when you feel a thump, reel down and then set the hook. Fun way to catch big fish.
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Re: Physics of the C-rig
[Re: WAWI]
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06/24/20 06:59 PM
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tmd11111
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What action and length rod are you guys throwing the heavy rigs on? I know you want a high ratio reel to take up line faster. Most time I'm using dobyns 784, I have used 804 but it's a beast and I dont like it for long days. I'm using a DX784 as well. Works great for Carolina RIgs
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Re: Physics of the C-rig
[Re: Frank the Tank]
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06/24/20 07:07 PM
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the skipper
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I use a 1/2oz with larger baits all the time, it's all in the cast. You cant cast it like normal, it's more of a surf rod type cast, its a big loop arch. You cant rare back and sling it either, just lob it out there. I also never throw a leader shorter tha probably 3' so that works into it as well
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Re: Physics of the C-rig
[Re: Flippin-Out]
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06/24/20 07:20 PM
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Pegging a Carolina Rig defeats one of the features of the rig. Another post was dead on when he said "cast the weight, not the hook." A Carolina Rig is best cast as a "lob" more than a "whip action" cast such as you might do with a traditional rigged lure. You do NOT forward load the rod by executing a fast backhand. You should "[censored] the catapult" for the cast with a long even speed backswing, in a side-arm movement. This will give you more room to accelerate the rig when you reverse direction. It also helps keep the weight pinned against the swivel. The forward cast should be a long sweep, getting faster as the sweep progresses, until you release spool pressure to let 'er rip. This procedure is exactly how heavy swimbaits are cast. The premise is you don't have to "whoosh" a lot of air when you're casting what's somewhat like a miniature brick. P. S.: If you notice your rod tip whipping back an forth rapidly at the point the lure is released, you are casting too fast. The rod should load and unload smoothly. This is what I was talking about. Notice the stopper up the main line. Still allows the weight to slide...
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Re: Physics of the C-rig
[Re: Frank the Tank]
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06/24/20 07:25 PM
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Good stuff guys, I will do some experimenting. I think I have a 5/16 oz weight on and need to upsize. Thanks Bigger weight with floating plastic. Weight should be heavier than the bait/hook.
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Re: Physics of the C-rig
[Re: Frank the Tank]
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06/24/20 10:26 PM
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ezbassin
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Iām having trouble getting any distance with my rig. Is It the 2 weights at the end that are working against each other and cutting distance? First of all you need to describe your set up. Rod, including length and action, reel, line and just exactly how you have the weight set up. I have a light c-rig on a 6-9 ft rod with a Tatula 150 and I can get plenty distance out of it. I also have a Dobyns 734 with a 1/2 oz weight and a Dobyns 874 with a 3/4 oz weight. On the 784 I use a Lews Super Duty wide spool 7-1 gear ratio. I get good distance with all three set ups. You need to make a side arm lob cast with it.
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Re: Physics of the C-rig
[Re: Frank the Tank]
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06/29/20 08:37 PM
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chickenfried76
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J-2 has an interesting set-up, using a bobber stop between swivel and beads to protect the knot? 2 beads to still get "clack" that you miss from the bead hitting the bobber stop and not the metal swivel?
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Re: Physics of the C-rig
[Re: CCTX]
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06/29/20 09:11 PM
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senko9S
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Cast the weights, not the hook.
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