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 Re: NEW TEXAS BILL WOULD MAKE RUNNING OVER PROTESTERS LEGAL.
[Re: Uncle Zeek]
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06/22/20 02:13 AM
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if you block my car,hem me in or try to drag me or my family out of my vehicle,there should be no liability if I run over or shoot you to protect myself....and while we are passing some common sense laws to protect us from hoodlums,lets pass a law that says if you resist arrest,fight with police or flee from police,they are allowed to shoot you with no liability civil or criminal....it won't take but a few being shot to stop all black lives matter protests....... exactly, peaceful protest does not involve causing harm to others, when you start that you are now committing felonies and should be dealt with accordingly. I came close once in the truck, st. louis but I don't remember the reason. they shut down I70 with tons of folks but I had to go down 44 to joplin. they probably don't want to screw with another truck driver after the denny bs in l.a. fearing for ones life while driving an 80,000 # truck will not go well for protesters. I wonder what the engine torque to body mass comes out to, semis avg around 1,200 ft# or more. Yep. I agree with Dan that it's not ok to just run over protesters. But when their actions move from lawful, peaceful demonstration (albeit being monumental jerks for interfering with the rights of others), and move into assault of those trapped motorists, I do think that the motorists should not have civil or criminal liability for injuries to the people who are blocking them in. Hypothetical scenario: Demonstrators block road. Vehicle at front gets swarmed with rioters breaking the windows and trying to attack the occupants. A sane, reasonable person would step on the gas and go through the obstacle for the sake of his/her own life (and whoever else is in the vehicle). That driver should not have to face civil and criminal charges for taking action to save his/her own life, even if it resulted in the injuries or deaths of some of the attackers. this is spot on
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Re: NEW TEXAS BILL WOULD MAKE RUNNING OVER PROTESTERS LEGAL.
[Re: Gourdbuster]
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06/22/20 02:14 AM
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We should save this thread, for evidence.  maybe you could get their license plate number to
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Re: NEW TEXAS BILL WOULD MAKE RUNNING OVER PROTESTERS LEGAL.
[Re: hopalong]
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06/22/20 02:18 AM
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You can sure tell the left coast influence in here-
And wanna be mods-
What has happed to you does not define who you are-
HOW you react to what happens to you DOES!
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Re: NEW TEXAS BILL WOULD MAKE RUNNING OVER PROTESTERS LEGAL.
[Re: steveiam]
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06/22/20 02:46 AM
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You can sure tell the left coast influence in here-
And wanna be mods- Please elaborate. You're offering an interesting idea I suppose... Any factual or evidential information would go a long way in supporting your conclusions. I'm open to hear the evidence/argument.
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Re: NEW TEXAS BILL WOULD MAKE RUNNING OVER PROTESTERS LEGAL.
[Re: hopalong]
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06/22/20 03:12 AM
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Last edited by Gourdbuster; 06/22/20 03:12 AM.
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Re: NEW TEXAS BILL WOULD MAKE RUNNING OVER PROTESTERS LEGAL.
[Re: hopalong]
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06/22/20 03:44 AM
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Americans divided not seen since the civil war, get ready for it
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Re: NEW TEXAS BILL WOULD MAKE RUNNING OVER PROTESTERS LEGAL.
[Re: Westside.]
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06/22/20 04:06 AM
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Re: NEW TEXAS BILL WOULD MAKE RUNNING OVER PROTESTERS LEGAL.
[Re: Dan90210 ☮]
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06/22/20 04:22 AM
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If any of y'all actually think you may run over someone for being in the street and impeding traffic, I'd not post about it on a public forum. That would demonstrate premeditation and become capital murder or attempted murder.
So either your silly enough to provide such evidence willingly and of your own accord, or you're all talk.
If it's from colum A, or B, I'd pipe down. Go call your Dad, or if he is gone say a prayer for him. That'd help more than this type of rhetoric. I rarely agree with Dan LOL, but yeah it's probably not a good idea to post about running over people on purpose on a public forum. Even if you were to run over someone on accident, now all the family has to do is put your name or this topic in a search engine and guess what pops up? If it's a matter of life or death, totally different scenario.
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Re: NEW TEXAS BILL WOULD MAKE RUNNING OVER PROTESTERS LEGAL.
[Re: hopalong]
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06/22/20 11:30 AM
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Does anyone really think this would pass?
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Re: NEW TEXAS BILL WOULD MAKE RUNNING OVER PROTESTERS LEGAL.
[Re: John175☮]
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06/22/20 11:34 AM
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Does anyone really think this would pass? NO There is a better chance of Gourd being a conservative and reasonable then this bill passing.
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Re: NEW TEXAS BILL WOULD MAKE RUNNING OVER PROTESTERS LEGAL.
[Re: John175☮]
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06/22/20 11:36 AM
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Does anyone really think this would pass? Very good point! Side Note: What ever happened to the good old days when you broke the law you were either arrested or given a ticket!  Why can't we just get back to the basics of life! 
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Re: NEW TEXAS BILL WOULD MAKE RUNNING OVER PROTESTERS LEGAL.
[Re: Laker One]
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06/22/20 11:53 AM
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Does anyone really think this would pass? Very good point! Side Note: What ever happened to the good old days when you broke the law you were either arrested or given a ticket! Why can't we just get back to the basics of life! because back then people didn't resist arrest without getting hit upside of the head so they just went to jail. Today the cops are so regulated that thugs believe they can resist and get away with it. We will never get back to old days because no one respects cops any more. The people believe they don't have to listen to cops because the cops are against them breaking the law. People believe they have the right to break the law without consequences. You have people on here believe people have the right to break the law in the name of protest. I guess as soon as you give them the right, under certain conditions, to break the law, then they believe they can make their own rules.
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Re: NEW TEXAS BILL WOULD MAKE RUNNING OVER PROTESTERS LEGAL.
[Re: hopalong]
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06/22/20 12:33 PM
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we have created a segment of our society who is just too sorry to work and believes that there is no sin involved in killing or stealing from others....we started this [censored] back in the 60's with "the great society" which started paying women to have more babies and result is that we have generations now who have collected welfare from conception to burial…
a harsh assessment but what is the answer....enforced birth control to stop children being born into an environment where they have little chance of ever becoming happy productive citizens....or....something triggering a race was where thousands are going to be killed and harsh consequences for the remainder...
you can call this racism or realism...it may be both...
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Re: NEW TEXAS BILL WOULD MAKE RUNNING OVER PROTESTERS LEGAL.
[Re: hopalong]
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06/22/20 01:31 PM
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https://thefederalist.com/2020/06/2...f-attack-by-rioters-a-white-supremacist/Here's a real-life example of my hypothetical that popped up in my news feed today. Cliffs notes version: Rioters trap civilian in her car and assault her, tearing her hair out and pointing a gun at her. She attempts to escape using her car to get away and some of the rioters are injured in the process. I don't see any reason that she should be liable for acting in self-preservation like any sane, reasonable person would do. To add insult to injury, media outlets are falsely claiming that such incidents are deliberate attacks by 'right-wing extremists', rather than acts of desperation by crime victims.
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Re: NEW TEXAS BILL WOULD MAKE RUNNING OVER PROTESTERS LEGAL.
[Re: 921 Phoenix]
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06/22/20 01:41 PM
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Does anyone really think this would pass? NO There is a better chance of Gourd being a conservative and reasonable then this bill passing. best that would happen most likely is criminal liability and probably civil as well would be removed for drivers, sorta like the castle law maybe. and for the record, only if I had to because of imminent danger. bad enough dodgin dam deer and pigs.
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