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Re: Performance question for 21' boat
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06/18/20 04:02 PM
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Ranger1
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Most under powered bass boats don't have a very strong resale value for that reason alone. I personally would never purchase a under powered boat of any sort.
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Re: Performance question for 21' boat
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06/18/20 04:30 PM
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ETXfisher91
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I had a 20' with a 200 on it that I just sold, my hole shot blew and top speed was around 62.
My personal opinion, get the max rating for the boat allows.
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Re: Performance question for 21' boat
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06/19/20 05:12 AM
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Flippin-Out
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If you are shopping now, don’t settle for an underpowered boat. A 21ft with 200 hp is gonna be a slug. Never ridden in an Allison, have ya tmd, keep in mind the OP was talking center-console boats, most of which are far heavier than an ally, and have a deeper V. No comparison. I'm sure Steez was commenting from that perspective, not the Ally that has nothing to do with this thread.
Last edited by Flippin-Out; 06/19/20 05:13 AM.
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Re: Performance question for 21' boat
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06/19/20 05:15 AM
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Flippin-Out
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older 20' rangers were rated for 245 but most came with 200's. Mine runs bout 55 with a full tournament load. I really don't have a problem with that because after I get on plane I slow down to about 35. My wife drives my Ranger faster than 35! If lake conditions permit, she seems good at 50-60.
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Re: Performance question for 21' boat
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06/19/20 10:51 AM
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Dubee
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[quote=SteezMacQueen]If you are shopping now, don’t settle for an underpowered boat. A 21ft with 200 hp is gonna be a slug. Never ridden in an Allison, have ya tmd, keep in mind the OP was talking center-console boats, most of which are far heavier than an ally, and have a deeper V. No comparison. I'm sure Steez was commenting from that perspective, not the Ally that has nothing to do with this thread.[/qu Where does the OP say anything about center console?
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Re: Performance question for 21' boat
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06/19/20 12:22 PM
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tmd11111
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If you are shopping now, don’t settle for an underpowered boat. A 21ft with 200 hp is gonna be a slug. Never ridden in an Allison, have ya tmd, keep in mind the OP was talking center-console boats, most of which are far heavier than an ally, and have a deeper V. No comparison. I'm sure Steez was commenting from that perspective, not the Ally that has nothing to do with this thread. My comment was a feeble attempt at humor
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Re: Performance question for 21' boat
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06/19/20 01:54 PM
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Flippin-Out
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Gotcha. Steez can be a good target sometimes too, LOL.
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Re: Performance question for 21' boat
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06/19/20 04:04 PM
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hopalong
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200 sho can be bumped up to 335 or 450, 335 takes a simple ecm reprogram and 450 needs a nizpro supercharger.
200 2 stroke can be taken to 250 - 300 in most cases for less than a rebuild.
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Re: Performance question for 21' boat
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06/19/20 04:15 PM
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tmd11111
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200 sho can be bumped up to 335 or 450, 335 takes a simple ecm reprogram and 450 needs a nizpro supercharger.
200 2 stroke can be taken to 250 - 300 in most cases for less than a rebuild. And a gearcase if you want to last more then 10 minutes
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Re: Performance question for 21' boat
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06/19/20 04:24 PM
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Douglas J
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200 sho can be bumped up to 335 or 450, 335 takes a simple ecm reprogram and 450 needs a nizpro supercharger.
200 2 stroke can be taken to 250 - 300 in most cases for less than a rebuild. And a gearcase if you want to last more then 10 minutes Why is that??
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Re: Performance question for 21' boat
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06/19/20 04:31 PM
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ssmith
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there is no p performance on a 21 ft boat with a 200 on it. it should be priced much cheaper because when you go to sell it wont bring as much if you don't care how fast it runs or how it will lift the boat go for it.
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Re: Performance question for 21' boat
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06/19/20 04:49 PM
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tmd11111
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200 sho can be bumped up to 335 or 450, 335 takes a simple ecm reprogram and 450 needs a nizpro supercharger.
200 2 stroke can be taken to 250 - 300 in most cases for less than a rebuild. And a gearcase if you want to last more then 10 minutes Why is that?? The stock gearcase cant handle the torque of the NIZPRO 450 super charger. Also stock gearcase design prone to blowout at speeds over 90ish.
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Re: Performance question for 21' boat
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06/19/20 05:41 PM
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Cmack
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While I would prefer to have max rated hp for resale purposes and top end speed a 200 3+liter will have a great holeshot.I remember back in the day when BASS had the 150 limit, there were guys running 20' boats that'd jump on plane and run 60-62 mph. I ran a 19'6" 1730# hull with a 2.5L 150efi jumped on plane jut fine and would run 63 all day long with two guys (Me 365# at the time) and 50 gallons fuel. I see lots of misinformation on this thread.
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Re: Performance question for 21' boat
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06/19/20 05:50 PM
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basscaster46
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Guess it depends on what you expect. If it has the right prop on it should get on plane easy just won’t be a speed demon. J. D
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Re: Performance question for 21' boat
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06/19/20 05:56 PM
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JacksonBean
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I don't think the OP answered one of the first and most important questions here. What hull are we talking about?
Huge difference in a 21' Gambler and a 21' Skeeter with a 200 on it.
There's so much that goes along with an underpowered boat.
J
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