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Dam near Dilley
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06/15/20 06:58 PM
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Does anyone have information, name etc. of a dam near Dilley? I fished there years ag, I believe it was on the Leona River. Thanks for any help.
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Re: Dam near Dilley
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The name of the dam is Derby Dam!
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Re: Dam near Dilley
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Re: Dam near Dilley
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The name of the dam is Derby Dam! +1 it is the frio river with the leona coming into it about 150yds upstream from the dam. there has not been a flow of water there in years ever since they started fracing in that area
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Re: Dam near Dilley
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06/18/20 11:10 PM
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The name of the dam is Derby Dam! +1 it is the frio river with the leona coming into it about 150yds upstream from the dam. there has not been a flow of water there in years ever since they started fracing in that area Fracing has been around since the 1860's. Just about every oil well is fraced. Here is a good article: https://www.livescience.com/34464-what-is-fracking.html
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Re: Dam near Dilley
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The name of the dam is Derby Dam! +1 it is the frio river with the leona coming into it about 150yds upstream from the dam. there has not been a flow of water there in years ever since they started fracing in that area Fracing has been around since the 1860's. Just about every oil well is fraced. Here is a good article: https://www.livescience.com/34464-what-is-fracking.html Your link says fracking has been used since the 1940's
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Re: Dam near Dilley
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The name of the dam is Derby Dam! +1 it is the frio river with the leona coming into it about 150yds upstream from the dam. there has not been a flow of water there in years ever since they started fracing in that area There is zero possibility that fracking caused the flow to cease. Horizontal fracking take place half mile to mile or more beneath the surface. No spring or ground water comes from even a fraction of that. Most likely non native plants like salt cedars or native but over populated plants like mesquite or prickly pear have dropped the shallow aquifers and springs to below flow levels. Plus the deep drought from 20010 to 2016 cause many springs in Texas to dry up and crack the clay layers. This drought also coincided with the oil rush so it appears to uninformed people that fracking caused it. It is a sad deal regardless of what makes the flows disappear.
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Re: Dam near Dilley
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The name of the dam is Derby Dam! +1 it is the frio river with the leona coming into it about 150yds upstream from the dam. there has not been a flow of water there in years ever since they started fracing in that area Fracing has been around since the 1860's. Just about every oil well is fraced. Here is a good article: https://www.livescience.com/34464-what-is-fracking.html Your link says fracking has been used since the 1940's The Real History Of Fracking Surprisingly, fracking can be traced back to 1862. It was during the battle of Fredericksburg VA., where Colonel Edward A.L. Roberts discovered something incredible when firing explosive artillery into a narrow canal that was blocking the battleground. The breakthrough was then described as 'superincumbent fluid tamping.' On April 26, 1865, Edward Roberts obtained his very first patent, for an “Improvement” in exploding torpedoes in artesian wells. In November of 1866, Edward Roberts was awarded patient number 59,936, known as the “Exploding Torpedo.”https://oilprice.com/Energy/Crude-Oil/The-Real-History-Of-Fracking.htmlI did not intend for the link to be a history lesson, it was for a good general explanation of fracing and how liberals have used misinformation to make a demon of fracing. Fracing has absolutely nothing to do with surface water or underground water. A lot of uninformed people played off the drought to claim fracing was causing water wells and rivers to go dry.
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Re: Dam near Dilley
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I actually like the history part. I grew up in Fredericksburg Va. have a M.A. in military history and never new this about the battle of Fredericksburg.
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Re: Dam near Dilley
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I actually like the history part. I grew up in Fredericksburg Va. have a M.A. in military history and never new this about the battle of Fredericksburg. Did that M.A. not have spelling lessons ????? KNEW vs new !!!!!
I would agree with you , but then we would both be WRONG !!!!!
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Re: Dam near Dilley
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06/19/20 03:06 PM
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I actually like the history part. I grew up in Fredericksburg Va. have a M.A. in military history and never new this about the battle of Fredericksburg. Did that M.A. not have spelling lessons ????? KNEW vs new !!!!! Come on man!
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Re: Dam near Dilley
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I would agree with you , but then we would both be WRONG !!!!!
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Re: Dam near Dilley
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The name of the dam is Derby Dam! +1 it is the frio river with the leona coming into it about 150yds upstream from the dam. there has not been a flow of water there in years ever since they started fracing in that area There is zero possibility that fracking caused the flow to cease. Horizontal fracking take place half mile to mile or more beneath the surface. No spring or ground water comes from even a fraction of that. Most likely non native plants like salt cedars or native but over populated plants like mesquite or prickly pear have dropped the shallow aquifers and springs to below flow levels. Plus the deep drought from 20010 to 2016 cause many springs in Texas to dry up and crack the clay layers. This drought also coincided with the oil rush so it appears to uninformed people that fracking caused it. It is a sad deal regardless of what makes the flows disappear. If I understand correctly current fracking in the Eagle Ford Shale area require fresh water correct? I know a rancher near El Paso whose has a friend that owned a ranch on the Rio Grande which was sold to an oil company for somewhere around $500 million dollars because of the water rights. I would never say that water in our lakes is more important than the jobs created by oil in Texas, but I think it would be a little naive to think fracking has nothing to do with our water levels. Just my opinion...
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Re: Dam near Dilley
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The name of the dam is Derby Dam! +1 it is the frio river with the leona coming into it about 150yds upstream from the dam. there has not been a flow of water there in years ever since they started fracing in that area There is zero possibility that fracking caused the flow to cease. Horizontal fracking take place half mile to mile or more beneath the surface. No spring or ground water comes from even a fraction of that. Most likely non native plants like salt cedars or native but over populated plants like mesquite or prickly pear have dropped the shallow aquifers and springs to below flow levels. Plus the deep drought from 20010 to 2016 cause many springs in Texas to dry up and crack the clay layers. This drought also coincided with the oil rush so it appears to uninformed people that fracking caused it. It is a sad deal regardless of what makes the flows disappear. If I understand correctly current fracking in the Eagle Ford Shale area require fresh water correct? I know a rancher near El Paso whose has a friend that owned a ranch on the Rio Grande which was sold to an oil company for somewhere around $500 million dollars because of the water rights. I would never say that water in our lakes is more important than the jobs created by oil in Texas, but I think it would be a little naive to think fracking has nothing to do with our water levels. Just my opinion... Water usage from the Rio Grande is regulated by an international treaty. Just because someone has water rights doesn't necessarily mean they can pump the water out.
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Re: Dam near Dilley
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06/19/20 06:19 PM
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The name of the dam is Derby Dam! +1 it is the frio river with the leona coming into it about 150yds upstream from the dam. there has not been a flow of water there in years ever since they started fracing in that area There is zero possibility that fracking caused the flow to cease. Horizontal fracking take place half mile to mile or more beneath the surface. No spring or ground water comes from even a fraction of that. Most likely non native plants like salt cedars or native but over populated plants like mesquite or prickly pear have dropped the shallow aquifers and springs to below flow levels. Plus the deep drought from 20010 to 2016 cause many springs in Texas to dry up and crack the clay layers. This drought also coincided with the oil rush so it appears to uninformed people that fracking caused it. It is a sad deal regardless of what makes the flows disappear. Our opinions are about as far apart as the miles it is from albany new york to derby texas. I have been fishing that dam since 1985 it always had water flowing over the dam. Then in 2012 when they started fracking the water stoped. It is 2020 and the water still does not flow over the dam. Coincidence??? Thats me throwing my castnet off the dam in 2014 the last time water went over the dam because of a flood. When was the last time you were there?
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