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Re: No nonsense police reforms
[Re: Jpurdue]
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06/15/20 02:01 PM
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steveiam
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I'm sorry guys, but you're just all victims of the media.....700k police, MILLIONS of police/citizen contacts annually.....the failure rate, things that should NOT HAPPEN....is an tiny fraction of a percentage point....until you get robots, it's virtually impossible to do better....always train, good hiring practices, prosecute those illegal acts ourselves to the fullest extent of the law, and that's it....that is all ...period Far to many interactions. Let's get back to that whole land of the free thing. 350 million police interactions per year. You can have zero interactions with the police per year if you want, just don't break the law. I know this to be true, because I do it all the time. That's step one, not breaking the law. Step two is to be respectful and not fight the police if you do have an interaction. Follow those two basic rules and you've got a 99.9999% chance of nothing bad happening to you. Josh, the fact that a large number of adults, many here on the TFF included, don’t get this simple fact, is really sad and exactly why we are in this turmoil right now-
What has happed to you does not define who you are-
HOW you react to what happens to you DOES!
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Re: No nonsense police reforms
[Re: Bigbob_FTW]
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06/15/20 03:04 PM
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Fish Chaser
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If the blacks would stop verbally abusing and physically resisting the police then all this nonsense would stop. That is the only answer.
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Re: No nonsense police reforms
[Re: Bigbob_FTW]
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06/15/20 09:48 PM
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outfishdya
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I have really been wondering where the Hispanics fit in here. If there was a racism issue, it would make since that they would also have a number of incidents to protest. I also believe a larger number of gangs are Hispanic. We are close to Mexico here, where is their outrage? I have a suspicion it has to do with getting deported vs jailed and guess which population doesn't fight back as much.
Woke up this morning Got yourself a gun....
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Re: No nonsense police reforms
[Re: Pilothawk]
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06/15/20 10:18 PM
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Chris B
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I would like to see resisting arrest with violence carry a mandatory ten year sentence in addition to whatever the underlying charge Carries.
Best idea on here. If they knew they were facing ten years for resisting maybe they would stop and stay alive.
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Re: No nonsense police reforms
[Re: Chris B]
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06/15/20 10:26 PM
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Kicker16
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I would like to see resisting arrest with violence carry a mandatory ten year sentence in addition to whatever the underlying charge Carries.
Best idea on here. If they knew they were facing ten years for resisting maybe they would stop and stay alive. Good one
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Re: No nonsense police reforms
[Re: Bob Davis]
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06/15/20 11:45 PM
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Oldrabbit
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The police are not the problem. The root cause does not exist there. You are wasting your time. They can come up with hundreds of ideas to fix the "police problem" and it won't change much of anything. We need to fix the criminal problem, the resisting arrest problem, the single parent with 6 kids problem, the all of the 6 kids having a different daddy problem, the schools teaching the kids that they are victims problem, etc.
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Re: No nonsense police reforms
[Re: Oldrabbit]
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06/15/20 11:55 PM
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JCG57
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The police are not the problem. The root cause does not exist there. You are wasting your time. They can come up with hundreds of ideas to fix the "police problem" and it won't change much of anything. We need to fix the criminal problem, the resisting arrest problem, the single parent with 6 kids problem, the all of the 6 kids having a different daddy problem, the schools teaching the kids that they are victims problem, etc. Succinctly stated and spot on. The big problems that the libs refuse to confront.
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Re: No nonsense police reforms
[Re: JRGOCARDS]
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06/16/20 12:40 AM
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Bassnhog
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Teach kids how to act when they are being arrested/detained . Fight it out in the courtroom not on the street with the police.
JR I agree. Here is a good training video for the youngin's of all races. How to interact with Law Enforcement.
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Re: No nonsense police reforms
[Re: Bigbob_FTW]
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06/16/20 02:39 AM
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birddogcatfish
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-There is no war on drugs -Most crimes stimulate from drugs - The aggressive uniforms are not the problem, all they are is an attempt To get things off our belts to reduce back pain - College definitely doesn’t make better Officers - Not all military men make good Officers
The problem is weak DA’s, nobody gets the time they need for doing bad stuff There is no true mental health help The media is horrible, don’t fall in the trap
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Re: No nonsense police reforms
[Re: steveiam]
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06/16/20 03:00 AM
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crankn101
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I'm sorry guys, but you're just all victims of the media.....700k police, MILLIONS of police/citizen contacts annually.....the failure rate, things that should NOT HAPPEN....is an tiny fraction of a percentage point....until you get robots, it's virtually impossible to do better....always train, good hiring practices, prosecute those illegal acts ourselves to the fullest extent of the law, and that's it....that is all ...period Far to many interactions. Let's get back to that whole land of the free thing. 350 million police interactions per year. You can have zero interactions with the police per year if you want, just don't break the law. I know this to be true, because I do it all the time. That's step one, not breaking the law. Step two is to be respectful and not fight the police if you do have an interaction. Follow those two basic rules and you've got a 99.9999% chance of nothing bad happening to you. Josh, the fact that a large number of adults, many here on the TFF included, don’t get this simple fact, is really sad and exactly why we are in this turmoil right now- This is where you guys are 100% wrong. In a lot of areas they pull people over for just driving after a certain time and on the highway system in TX they run dogs around your vehicle at govt controlled storp points and search your vehicle. Both of these are against the Constitution and create hatred for cops. Agree with me or not, I'm correct.
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Re: No nonsense police reforms
[Re: Tallgrass05]
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06/16/20 03:23 AM
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Bob Davis
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Please try to educate yourself somewhat. I'll wait.
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Re: No nonsense police reforms
[Re: crankn101]
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06/16/20 03:32 AM
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Pinkus
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Far to many interactions. Let's get back to that whole land of the free thing.
350 million police interactions per year. You can have zero interactions with the police per year if you want, just don't break the law. I know this to be true, because I do it all the time. That's step one, not breaking the law. Step two is to be respectful and not fight the police if you do have an interaction. Follow those two basic rules and you've got a 99.9999% chance of nothing bad happening to you. Josh, the fact that a large number of adults, many here on the TFF included, don’t get this simple fact, is really sad and exactly why we are in this turmoil right now- This is where you guys are 100% wrong. In a lot of areas they pull people over for just driving after a certain time and on the highway system in TX they run dogs around your vehicle at govt controlled storp points and search your vehicle. Both of these are against the Constitution and create hatred for cops. Agree with me or not, I'm correct. Well don’t beat around the bush, tell us what you did to have a bad experience with law enforcement? You hiding drugs or illegals at those checkpoints? You out running around up to no good at night? Did they touch your private places? People who don’t break the law or have anything to hide have no trouble with law enforcement... That’s a fact jack.. Thanks for playing, better luck next time
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Re: No nonsense police reforms
[Re: crankn101]
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06/16/20 03:45 AM
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FowlTrouble
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[quote=Jpurdue][quote=crankn101][quote=txmasterpo]I'm sorry guys, but you're just all victims of the media.....700k police, MILLIONS of police/citizen contacts annually.....the failure rate, things that should NOT HAPPEN....is an tiny fraction of a percentage point....until you get robots, it's virtually impossible to do better....always train, good hiring practices, prosecute those illegal acts ourselves to the fullest extent of the law, and that's it....that is all ...period Far to many interactions. Let's get back to that whole land of the free thing. [/quote This is where you guys are 100% wrong. In a lot of areas they pull people over for just driving after a certain time and on the highway system in TX they run dogs around your vehicle at govt controlled storp points and search your vehicle. Both of these are against the Constitution and create hatred for cops. Agree with me or not, I'm correct. WTH are you talking about? Where do you live that you are seeing these outlandish accusations? From your past posts its obvious you are one of “them”. Heres your opportunity to backup what you say.
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Re: No nonsense police reforms
[Re: 9094]
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06/16/20 03:50 AM
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Flippin-Out
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Uniform training standards. Right now there are so many different standards it is ridiculous. From buy a gun and take a test to 8 month academies. Professional “good guys” uniforms. No more tactical cool look. Believe it or not dress and attitude have a lot to do do with each other. No more blacked out vehicles. Black and white or blue and white should be national standard. Training on first use of better non lethal weapons. Pepper ball guns etc, tasers etc. Instant deployment in a bad situation before deadly force can be used to end confrontations fast. If a pepper ball is deployed to soon the officer might be disciplined but no one will be dead.
There are many things that can be listed here. Most importantly have a mental test that every law enforcement candidate has to take. Many in the LE profession have a superior attitude and believe they are right always. It takes a special person to be cool enough to access a situation and make a cool headed decision. How about you play cop for a while. Get out your pepperball gun and fire a few - while 'ol Tyrone is emptying a magazine of .40 S&W hollowpoints in your general direction. Would that be about what we need? On vehicles, what prominent visual means of immediate identification & marking will we ask all felons to use for THEIR vehicles? Shouldn't we at least allow for a level playing field? In the American Revolution, the British were the "redcoats" and U.S. militia were a ragtag bunch, often with no uniform to readily identify them. How'd that work out for the British?
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