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Re: No nonsense police reforms
[Re: Bigbob_FTW]
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06/15/20 01:39 AM
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Billy Blazer 300 HPDI
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We need more people reform than we need Police reform. If people would quit stealing, raping, dealing drugs to kits you name it.
Things would be much different.
Law enforcement needs to make some change, the people they deal with need to make alot more.
Thanks, Billy
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Re: No nonsense police reforms
[Re: Tallgrass05]
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06/15/20 02:04 AM
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JacksonBean
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Tamir Rice is an example of a person who was not breaking any law, and a good example of why the statement "99% of these situations would be avoided if people were raised to have any sense and not break the law" is a poor one. Kansas.... I have trouble believing you’re this dense though I’ve shared a meal with Bill Maher and shared the same sentiment. The kid wanted to be cool and removed the bright orange tip off of a toy store gun. He felt pretty gangster scaring the general public by pointing it at people all the way up to his death. You see this as a renegade cop who needs to be punished but you’re ignoring the far larger issues at work.
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Re: No nonsense police reforms
[Re: Tallgrass05]
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06/15/20 02:08 AM
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Duck_Hunter
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Tamir Rice is an example of a person who was not breaking any law, and a good example of why the statement "99% of these situations would be avoided if people were raised to have any sense and not break the law" is a poor one. This is weak, even for you, especially after someone just posted what actually happened. Sad story,, but what you’re purporting removes all nuance and context. Completely disingenuous.
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Re: No nonsense police reforms
[Re: JacksonBean]
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06/15/20 02:08 AM
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Tallgrass05
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The kid was shot 2 seconds after the cops pulled up. That's why the protests are happening and reform is needed.
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Re: No nonsense police reforms
[Re: Tallgrass05]
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06/15/20 02:13 AM
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The kid was shot 2 seconds after the cops pulled up. That's why the protests are happening and reform is needed. we finally agree to something we do need reform to the deadbeat thugs who won't quit committing crimes. not sure who the kid is but he is dead because he had no training of not pointing a gun at police. getting rid of lower iq of the gen pool good riddance getting tired of the crybabies liberal defending these thugs
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Re: No nonsense police reforms
[Re: Duck_Hunter]
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06/15/20 02:24 AM
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Bob Davis
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The 5 DPD officers massacred were innocent men as well. Can't recall TG condemning that act. Tamir Rice is an example of a person who was not breaking any law, and a good example of why the statement "99% of these situations would be avoided if people were raised to have any sense and not break the law" is a poor one. This is weak, even for you, especially after someone just posted what actually happened. Sad story,, but what you’re purporting removes all nuance and context. Completely disingenuous. White guilt is always borne in the liberal mind. It is an inherent trait of the liberalism disorder.
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Re: No nonsense police reforms
[Re: txmasterpo]
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06/15/20 03:03 AM
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crankn101
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I'm sorry guys, but you're just all victims of the media.....700k police, MILLIONS of police/citizen contacts annually.....the failure rate, things that should NOT HAPPEN....is an tiny fraction of a percentage point....until you get robots, it's virtually impossible to do better....always train, good hiring practices, prosecute those illegal acts ourselves to the fullest extent of the law, and that's it....that is all ...period Far to many interactions. Let's get back to that whole land of the free thing.
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Re: No nonsense police reforms
[Re: Billy Blazer 300 HPDI]
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06/15/20 03:21 AM
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We need more people reform than we need Police reform. If people would quit stealing, raping, dealing drugs to kits you name it.
Things would be much different.
Law enforcement needs to make some change, the people they deal with need to make alot more. Well said
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Re: No nonsense police reforms
[Re: Tallgrass05]
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06/15/20 03:37 AM
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Uncle Zeek
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Tamir Rice is an example of a person who was not breaking any law, and a good example of why the statement "99% of these situations would be avoided if people were raised to have any sense and not break the law" is a poor one. Isnt there a law against brandishing a firearm? A replica that looks very close to the real thing is a firearm to the person being threatened. I had a stupid kid point one of those damned things at me a few years ago and I was a split-second away from shooting him. The cops who arrived on scene probably would have shot him had he pointed it at them. You can search my posting history for it - you seem to like hunting through my old posts.
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Re: No nonsense police reforms
[Re: Tallgrass05]
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06/15/20 03:56 AM
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The kid was shot 2 seconds after the cops pulled up. That's why the protests are happening and reform is needed. He was holding a realistic pellet gun and pointing it at people. The call to police was that a kid was pointing a gun at people in a park.
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Re: No nonsense police reforms
[Re: Bigbob_FTW]
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06/15/20 06:03 AM
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Boat is sinking and you guys are trying to bail out the water before plugging the leak. Government cannot fix the problems that exist in black culture, actually they are in part responsible for them. All for better trained cops, but it isn't the cops that are kiling the majority of black folks....it's the black folks doing it. If BLM really matters then black men need to take back their God given roles of being the fathers in a household. Most cases no one cares more then a dad hell bent on making their children successful. No amount of kneeling will fix multiple fatherless generations. A house divded cannot stand. Boys need good men raising them so they can have the best chance to be successful. Fix the leak, or the ship will contine to sink.
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Re: No nonsense police reforms
[Re: Alumacraft 14]
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06/15/20 12:05 PM
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bucksnbass357
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We need more people reform than we need Police reform. If people would quit stealing, raping, dealing drugs to kits you name it.
Things would be much different.
Law enforcement needs to make some change, the people they deal with need to make alot more. Well said Boat is sinking and you guys are trying to bail out the water before plugging the leak. Government cannot fix the problems that exist in black culture, actually they are in part responsible for them. All for better trained cops, but it isn't the cops that are kiling the majority of black folks....it's the black folks doing it. If BLM really matters then black men need to take back their God given roles of being the fathers in a household. Most cases no one cares more then a dad hell bent on making their children successful. No amount of kneeling will fix multiple fatherless generations. A house divded cannot stand. Boys need good men raising them so they can have the best chance to be successful. Fix the leak, or the ship will contine to sink. Both comments are on the money and describe the true crux of the problem. Well stated gentlemen
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Re: No nonsense police reforms
[Re: Tallgrass05]
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06/15/20 12:49 PM
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SteezMacQueen
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Tamir Rice is an example of a person who was not breaking any law, and a good example of why the statement "99% of these situations would be avoided if people were raised to have any sense and not break the law" is a poor one. The idiot was taught that pulling a pistol on people is good fun. Duh.
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Re: No nonsense police reforms
[Re: Tallgrass05]
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06/15/20 12:51 PM
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SteezMacQueen
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The kid was shot 2 seconds after the cops pulled up. That's why the protests are happening and reform is needed. He pulled his gun out two seconds after the police arrived. NOT A COINCIDENCE!!
Eat. Sleep. Fish.
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Re: No nonsense police reforms
[Re: crankn101]
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06/15/20 12:57 PM
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Jpurdue
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I'm sorry guys, but you're just all victims of the media.....700k police, MILLIONS of police/citizen contacts annually.....the failure rate, things that should NOT HAPPEN....is an tiny fraction of a percentage point....until you get robots, it's virtually impossible to do better....always train, good hiring practices, prosecute those illegal acts ourselves to the fullest extent of the law, and that's it....that is all ...period Far to many interactions. Let's get back to that whole land of the free thing. 350 million police interactions per year. You can have zero interactions with the police per year if you want, just don't break the law. I know this to be true, because I do it all the time. That's step one, not breaking the law. Step two is to be respectful and not fight the police if you do have an interaction. Follow those two basic rules and you've got a 99.9999% chance of nothing bad happening to you.
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