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Big Wormin' Help #13576933 05/31/20 01:58 AM
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Got to throwin one of my summertime staples a little bit today and had some trouble. Had a few really solid bites but when I went to set the hook nothing was there. On my last bite the fish about took the rod out of my hands but I still came back with nothin'. I've never had this issue before and I feel like I give them enough time to eat the whole worm before swinging on them so I'm puzzled on what I'm doing wrong. I feel like a bigger hook would impede some of the action but maybe that would help hookups. Let me know what yall think.

The setup I used today was:
-Dobyns 704
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-3/8oz weight pegged to a 4/0 EWG
-Zoom Ol' Monster

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Was they pulling worn down on hook ? If that's the case tail grabbers what i would guess.

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possibly short strikes, blue gill, setting the hook too fast or too slow, just finacky fish, hard to guess. did you look at the worm for teeth rash marks? your set up is good.


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Set up sounds good, my guess is the fish were just finicky. Maybe try downsizing to an 8 inch worm in the same color. You could also try downsizing to a quarter or 1/8 ounce weight. Sometimes that can make a lot of difference in getting a bite and getting them to hang on. Also try fishing it un-pegged if you think you can get it through the cover without getting hung up. Scent never hurts either.

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Everyday is a new day and the fish never seem to do the same thing 2 days in a row. They could have been in a finicky mood. The color of your bait may have been off a shade, The moon's gravitational pull on the earth may have been off slightly. Who knows what it may have been. It has been a weird spring.

Friday we caught two 3 pounders off a bed. I am talking locked on guarding a bed. The bluegill are also spawning and we had many bluegill bites on big worms. I was throwing a Zoom Ol Monster for a bit. Some of the bluegill in this lake we were fishing near Glen Rose are over a pound and will give you a pretty good tug on a worm before they turn loose. We wound up catching most of our fish on a weightless Super Fluke in pearl color. Big bluegill would be following it nearly every cast but they rarely bit the Fluke. If I threw the WM red worm the bream bit it every time. Go figure.

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Thanks for all the replies. I think I'll try downsizing next time. They did pull the worm down on a few bites so I guess it was just short strikers. Was starting to have some serious doubts about my hook choice as I know a lot of guys throw straight shank for worms vs EWG. But I figure the EWG would actually improve hookups with all that extra bite.

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Originally Posted by Ken A.
Friday we caught two 3 pounders off a bed. I am talking locked on guarding a bed. The bluegill are also spawning and we had many bluegill bites on big worms. I was throwing a Zoom Ol Monster for a bit. Some of the bluegill in this lake we were fishing near Glen Rose are over a pound and will give you a pretty good tug on a worm before they turn loose. We wound up catching most of our fish on a weightless Super Fluke in pearl color. Big bluegill would be following it nearly every cast but they rarely bit the Fluke. If I threw the WM red worm the bream bit it every time. Go figure.


Wow that's crazy. I had been catching a few with beat up tails that were biting very much like they were protecting a bed over the last month just couldn't confirm it as I usually fish lakes that are fairly stained. I know I've heard people say they catch spawners into June but I've just never heard there be this many this late. Weird spring for sure.

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I have had this problem before, and I was able to get them to hit the head by using a 10in worm as a jig trailer. I think the bulk of the jig made them quit pecking at it and really try to kill the bait by striking the head.

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Same setup I use. I will add, almost all of my good fish on a big worm gulped the worm and did not give a head shake. They were very soft feeling bites and the line movement is generally what I set the hook on. The smaller fish I catch tend to hit hard and pull.


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Re: Big Wormin' Help [Re: outfishdya] #13577485 05/31/20 08:00 PM
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Originally Posted by outfishdya
Same setup I use. I will add, almost all of my good fish on a big worm gulped the worm and did not give a head shake. They were very soft feeling bites and the line movement is generally what I set the hook on. The smaller fish I catch tend to hit hard and pull.


good point. big fish are usually loners next to some kind of cover. when they hit they dont have to run like smaller fish, they can just sit there. when the inhale a big worm they also inhale a gallon of water making it very hard to feel the bite. when they spit it out you can really feel it. the fish i used to have over 15lbs taught me this well, you couldnt feel the initial bite but you could see it.


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All good info above. Your setup sounds fine. Only difference is I use a 5/0 hook w/10”-12” worms. Sunfish do like yanking on larger worms. Sometimes they won’t let go but that bite usually feels different. Instead of the defined “tap-tap” of a bass inhaling the worm the sunfish feel like a constant “machine gun” pecking.

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Small bucks pulling on those tails, or bream pecking at it time to move on

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Sounds just like small spots or bream

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Even though you are throwing a big worm doesn't mean 8in bass aren't trying to get it. I often dye the tail of my big worms and the perch and all bass always eat the dyed part off... so annoying lol

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Originally Posted by Finesse Master/ Dropshot king
Even though you are throwing a big worm doesn't mean 8in bass aren't trying to get it. I often dye the tail of my big worms and the perch and all bass always eat the dyed part off... so annoying lol


Last summer I caught a 5 on a 10" curly tail and followed that up with a gut hooked dink. I play around with all kinds of baits in ponds and catch all kinds of fish on all kinds of baits. Lately catching 2 lb LM on crappie jigs just jackin around. Nothing surprises me anymore. 10 lb cats on a square bill gets my adrenaline jacked till i realized its cat.

I'm starting to believe it is mostly put A bait in the right place at the right time more than what the bait looks like to the fish.


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