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 Re: Dak vs Dalton
[Re: Happykamper]
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05/27/20 09:13 PM
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txmasterpo
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Trade Dakota on the franchise, sign Dalton to a 4 year deal (he's only 32) worth 80 million, use savings to load defense and depth......the results will be better than 38 million dollar soup man
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Re: Dak vs Dalton
[Re: RayBob]
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05/27/20 09:16 PM
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Rocky Robison
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All I know is what its like to not have a QB. We have been through that cycle. They screwed up by paying Zeke. QB's are always paid on whomever is the next contract up. Right now its Dak, so either pay him or take your chances on a prospect. They are all prospects until proven they can win and there are plenty of 1st rounders that never make it at that position. I personally would choose to deal with a known commodity even if that means through the franchise tag.
By the way Mond at A&M is terrible. Even if that known commodity is a Prescott that will consistently get you 8-8 seasons and every 4-5th year maybe make the playoffs? Too many choices out there that I'd risk those accomplishments to try and get better! I don't think Mond is terrible nor great, just average or a little above like Dak! He'll probably be a 3rd or early 4th rounder. I just hope he's terrible on 11/28! Prescott made the playoffs 2 out 4 years. Accuracy lends credit to your posts. He's probably been better than 8-8 consistently too in those 4 years, and I also said maybe every 4th or 5th year and how long has he been in the league, not 5, but you get the jist! I'm not a Cowboys fan nor a hater, but like I said, I like Dak, but IMO he's not y'alls guy!
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Re: Dak vs Dalton
[Re: Happykamper]
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05/27/20 09:20 PM
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what I do not understand is why the cowboys wouldnt put him on the tag where a team can make him an offer and the cowboys can match and if they dont they get at least a 1st rd pick?
It sounded like a win win to me. First I dont think anyone would offer more and if they were dumb enough your off the hook with multiple picks.
pledge= fishstick
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Re: Dak vs Dalton
[Re: Happykamper]
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05/27/20 09:33 PM
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Its possible they don't know what some other team might offer Dak.
It someone makes a very good offer that Dallas does not want to match, they only get the other teams no 1 pick.
This way they can talk to Dalton, possibly make a multi year deal and then look to trade Dak. He would easily bring more than a no1 pick in trade.
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Re: Dak vs Dalton
[Re: Happykamper]
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05/27/20 09:52 PM
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butch sanders
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too bad about Zeke contract
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Re: Dak vs Dalton
[Re: Happykamper]
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05/27/20 09:56 PM
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BThomas
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I was curious to see what each had done after their first 4 years in the league, wins, td's, and yardage are almost identical, Dalton has 30 more pics which is bad but he still has the same amount of wins. IMO Dak is basically another Dalton, a QB that can win some games if he has a lot of help. Would you pay Dak 35 - 40 M a year or just give Dalton 3 M a year and roll with it ? You really have to consider. Dalton was running for his life behind that Bengals offensive line. Dalton did not have the what Dak has had. I have said it from the beginning. Cowboys screwed the pooch signing Zeke to the big contract. Although, Zeke or his agent was smart enough to see what was about to happen and jumped Dak on the contract negotiations. Cowboys should have let Zeke walk.
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Re: Dak vs Dalton
[Re: Allison1]
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05/27/20 10:18 PM
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txmasterpo
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Its possible they don't know what some other team might offer Dak.
It someone makes a very good offer that Dallas does not want to match, they only get the other teams no 1 pick.
This way they can talk to Dalton, possibly make a multi year deal and then look to trade Dak. He would easily bring more than a no1 pick in trade. Actually the non exclusive tag gives them TWO 1st round picks if another team signs him and Dallas doesn't match.....they didn't do it because it was seen as disrespect.....and no other team would have remotely paid Dakota 35 million a year....further injuring his psych.....I would have down exactly that without a doubt
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Re: Dak vs Dalton
[Re: butch sanders]
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05/27/20 10:23 PM
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too bad about Zeke contract  Jerry and Stephen are looking very foolish with the timing and monetary value of Zeke's and now Dak's second contracts. Time will tell, but Jerry and now Stephen have really struggled maximising value when negotiating veteran resigns vs trade. I know the Patriots were blessed with a unique situation, but their GM mastered buy low, sell high and the modern salary cap.
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Re: Dak vs Dalton
[Re: Dan90210 ☮]
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05/27/20 11:44 PM
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And for the record I'm not bashing the city of Cincinnati. I have several good friends up there.
It's rusty and all, but not a bad place, plenty of good folks live in Cincinnati. I like the city. However their football team hasn't really been lighting it up in the last 30 years.
And that said they might have his many playoff wins in the last 10 years as Dallas lol. one of y'all look that up. I bet it's not too far off. Romo years
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Re: Dak vs Dalton
[Re: Happykamper]
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05/27/20 11:46 PM
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David Welcher
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Jerry Jones is a Hall of Fame Owner! Just give him another 25 years he will figure it out and take the Cowboys back to the Super Bowl!
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Re: Dak vs Dalton
[Re: David Welcher]
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05/28/20 01:02 AM
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I hate Zeke too, he is the reason the Cowboys are in this position, because Dak could not wipe his [censored] without Zeke, look at Daks record after his rookie year, look at daltons record the first 4 years, identical to Dak, Dak is another Dalton, just pay Dalton half of what Dak wants and draft another QB or two, Dak is not the answer, he has to have a stacked team to win, Put Dak on that Bengals team, I bet he would not of ever been the starter.
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Re: Dak vs Dalton
[Re: Leonardo1]
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05/28/20 01:07 AM
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All I know is what its like to not have a QB. We have been through that cycle. They screwed up by paying Zeke. QB's are always paid on whomever is the next contract up. Right now its Dak, so either pay him or take your chances on a prospect. They are all prospects until proven they can win and there are plenty of 1st rounders that never make it at that position. I personally would choose to deal with a known commodity even if that means through the franchise tag.
By the way Mond at A&M is terrible. Mond is horrible. So is the tsip. Neither is a nfl qb. I would offer Dak 20 million take it or leave it. Then run with dalton and draft next year.
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Re: Dak vs Dalton
[Re: Leonardo1]
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05/28/20 01:44 AM
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Happykamper
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All I know is what its like to not have a QB. We have been through that cycle. They screwed up by paying Zeke. QB's are always paid on whomever is the next contract up. Right now its Dak, so either pay him or take your chances on a prospect. They are all prospects until proven they can win and there are plenty of 1st rounders that never make it at that position. I personally would choose to deal with a known commodity even if that means through the franchise tag.
By the way Mond at A&M is terrible. So Brady did not get paid the most, neither did Brees, what about Tannerhill, Foles, Rivers, Bridgewater , this next man up gets the most is not happening, if you are one of the top QB's then Maybe, Dak is not one of them.
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Re: Dak vs Dalton
[Re: Happykamper]
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05/28/20 02:07 AM
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junk baits
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Dalton 3 M a year and roll with it... nough said 
GO FISH!
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Re: Dak vs Dalton
[Re: Happykamper]
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05/28/20 02:10 AM
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junk baits
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All I know is what its like to not have a QB. We have been through that cycle. They screwed up by paying Zeke. QB's are always paid on whomever is the next contract up. Right now its Dak, so either pay him or take your chances on a prospect. They are all prospects until proven they can win and there are plenty of 1st rounders that never make it at that position. I personally would choose to deal with a known commodity even if that means through the franchise tag.
By the way Mond at A&M is terrible. So Brady did not get paid the most, neither did Brees, what about Tannerhill, Foles, Rivers, Bridgewater , this next man up gets the most is not happening, if you are one of the top QB's then Maybe, Dak is not one of them. 100% correct..
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