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Re: Minnesota cops [Re: Bigbob_FTW] #13572877 05/27/20 04:21 PM
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Originally Posted by Bigbob_FTW
I wonder when forgery became a capitol offense?

Clearly when he resisted arrest.



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Re: Minnesota cops [Re: bloo_rainger] #13572888 05/27/20 04:31 PM
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I watched a little more of the footage. Clearly he was in hand cuffs prior to the main altercation. They had him sitting down cuffed up against a wall before they started to walk him over to the police car. I'm sure he fought back prior to the by-stander video starting, but at that point he was cuffed. 4 police officers should be able to restrain a man cuffed behind his back and in the prone position on the ground without having to keep a knee on the neck for somewhere between 4-8 minutes. (As reported in an article I read).

We have a legal system this still needs to play out in, but I suspect it will not end well for these officers. It sure appears to be a very clear excessive force for a threat that had already been neutralized.


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Re: Minnesota cops [Re: Jpurdue] #13572893 05/27/20 04:36 PM
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Originally Posted by Jpurdue
I watched a little more of the footage. Clearly he was in hand cuffs prior to the main altercation. They had him sitting down cuffed up against a wall before they started to walk him over to the police car. I'm sure he fought back prior to the by-stander video starting, but at that point he was cuffed. 4 police officers should be able to restrain a man cuffed behind his back and in the prone position on the ground without having to keep a knee on the neck for somewhere between 4-8 minutes. (As reported in an article I read).

We have a legal system this still needs to play out in, but I suspect it will not end well for these officers. It sure appears to be a very clear excessive force for a threat that had already been neutralized.


I watched the entirety of the video, it’s right around a full 8 minutes, and that’s assuming the officer put his knee on his neck the second the video started which isn’t likely.



Re: Minnesota cops [Re: bloo_rainger] #13572895 05/27/20 04:37 PM
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It’s been said, but absolutely no excuse for this one. Multiple officers on scene, multiple bystanders asking pretty nicely at first for you to just check on him, and not a single officer on scene one time even looked at the mans face.



Re: Minnesota cops [Re: bloo_rainger] #13572898 05/27/20 04:39 PM
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why didn't somebody push the bully off his neck?
maybe you get tazed
but you stop a murder

Re: Minnesota cops [Re: butch sanders] #13572901 05/27/20 04:41 PM
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Originally Posted by butch sanders
why didn't somebody push the bully off his neck?
maybe you get tazed
but you stop a murder


100% chance you end up shot in that situation.

Did you watch the video? an officer is literally standing guard making sure they don’t interfere.

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Re: Minnesota cops [Re: butch sanders] #13572904 05/27/20 04:41 PM
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Originally Posted by butch sanders
why didn't somebody push the bully off his neck?
maybe you get tazed
but you stop a murder

The cop would be justified in killing you. These pretend laws need to change.

Re: Minnesota cops [Re: bloo_rainger] #13572905 05/27/20 04:42 PM
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Where were to good cops in this situation? People always say most are good, where were they? Only the couple of bad apples were at this incident?

Re: Minnesota cops [Re: lakeforkfisherman] #13572909 05/27/20 04:46 PM
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Originally Posted by lakeforkfisherman
You never get to see what happened before the video. Now that the world has seen the video, it won’t matter. Those officers are in deep doo doo.


Some prior posts indicate that forgery, resisting arrest, back sassing a cop quality for the the death penalty. Tried, convicted, executed on the spot no fuss no muss except for 10,000 cell phone cameras. SupermaX will keep the cop safe.

Re: Minnesota cops [Re: bloo_rainger] #13572913 05/27/20 04:48 PM
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My thoughts are let it ply out in the justice system and people's court.

But I'll bet they pooped themselves when they heard the guy died.

Re: Minnesota cops [Re: TR176] #13572915 05/27/20 04:49 PM
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Originally Posted by lakeforkfisherman
You never get to see what happened before the video. Now that the world has seen the video, it won’t matter. Those officers are in deep doo doo.


Some prior posts indicate that forgery, resisting arrest, back sassing a cop quality for the the death penalty. Tried, convicted, executed on the spot no fuss no muss except for 10,000 cell phone cameras. SupermaX will keep the cop safe.


Yep. It really doesn’t matter what happened prior to that moment. Street justice isn’t how it’s supposed to work. Cops could have just seen him murder 25 people. Once he’s in handcuffs, and subdued, he should get his day in court. What they did is akin to an officer walking up and putting one in the back of his skull to get even. It’s pretty likely the officers egos were hurt that he resisted, so they went way too far.

Why is he even in the ground at that point. He’s cuffed and calm. Put him in the patrol car.

To be clear, there wouldn’t be this uproar if he was a mass murder, and rightfully so, but once you’ve gotten to the point that he’s cuffed, and subdued, fight is over.

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Re: Minnesota cops [Re: SheldonS] #13572917 05/27/20 04:50 PM
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Originally Posted by SheldonS
My thoughts are let it ply out in the justice system and people's court.

But I'll bet they pooped themselves when they heard the guy died.


The cops should have let it play out in the justice system too, they didn’t. They had to know he was dying. He wasn’t moving or breathing.



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He was cuffed and four officers should have been man enough to have him in a car and on his way downtown for booking. Cuff his ankles if you need to, no need to treat anyone like that. I would not want to be an office in that city, things are going to get out of hand.


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Originally Posted by Jpurdue
Some indication the guy was under the influence and resisted arrest. He may have had an underlying health issue that made it unwise for him to fight the police. It’s possible he couldn’t breathe because he was having a heart attack. Its possible those police Officers were way out of line. A jury will get to see all the facts and make a decision.


This! Wait until the actual facts of the incident are revealed, rather than a knee jerk reaction as promoted by the MSM. Also. an autopsy result can clear up a lot of speculation. But, by all means do the rioting and looting of liquor, Nike, and color tv stores. Most normal people express their rage that way.

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Originally Posted by Jpurdue
Some indication the guy was under the influence and resisted arrest. He may have had an underlying health issue that made it unwise for him to fight the police. It’s possible he couldn’t breathe because he was having a heart attack. Its possible those police Officers were way out of line. A jury will get to see all the facts and make a decision.


This! Wait until the actual facts of the incident are revealed, rather than a knee jerk reaction as promoted by the MSM. Also. an autopsy result can clear up a lot of speculation. But, by all means do the rioting and looting of liquor, Nike, and color tv stores. Most normal people express their rage that way.


Frankly none of that matters to me. Wether he was having a heart attack, or wether he couldn’t breath because the officers knee was on his neck, the officers chose to ignore a dying man in order to exert dominance over him because he bruised their egos by resisting. Nothing preceding the video matters to me at all. A man died because an officer was digging his knee into the back of his neck for over 8 minutes! For no reason, while ignoring the pleas of the man they were arresting as well as the bystanders who made it very clear the man was dying.

There’s zero way to spin this as a “back the blue” situation. This was power hungry cops wanting to win the ego battle. Not only with the man on the ground, but with the bystanders pleading for them to save him.

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