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Re: Minnesota cops
[Re: bloo_rainger]
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05/27/20 02:46 PM
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Snakeyes711
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Pretty sure the cops will be charged with murder.
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Re: Minnesota cops
[Re: bloo_rainger]
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05/27/20 02:47 PM
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Team Skeeterless
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I’m 100% pro-blue and always try to see things from police side but no excuses for this one. He was restrained, saying he couldn’t breathe, bystanders telling them he was unresponsive yet nobody checked or looked at him to confirm and kept knee on neck. Flat out this one is bad and no excuse for it!!
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Re: Minnesota cops
[Re: Team Skeeterless]
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05/27/20 02:51 PM
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TexDawg
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I’m 100% pro-blue and always try to see things from police side but no excuses for this one. He was restrained, saying he couldn’t breathe, bystanders telling them he was unresponsive yet nobody checked or looked at him to confirm and kept knee on neck. Flat out this one is bad and no excuse for it!! I have to agree
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Re: Minnesota cops
[Re: bloo_rainger]
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05/27/20 02:52 PM
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junbengreat
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Why is it that military have to be shot at before engaging the enemy but our police officers see anything that resembles a weapons and they shoot kill civilians. I’m thinking training needs to change.
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Re: Minnesota cops
[Re: bloo_rainger]
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05/27/20 03:02 PM
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redskeet100
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The cop definitely went too far in this case and will suffer the consequences. This all starts the same way though, a criminal that runs or resists arrest and winds up hurt or dead because he didn't take responsibility for his actions.
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Re: Minnesota cops
[Re: junbengreat]
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05/27/20 03:10 PM
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Jpurdue
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Why is it that military have to be shot at before engaging the enemy but our police officers see anything that resembles a weapons and they shoot kill civilians. I’m thinking training needs to change. That's an Obama rule that cost us a lot of lives an arguably a war. Maybe ya'll saw something I didn't. I've not watched the whole video. I just saw a 20 second clip on the nightly news. How do we know he hadn't said he couldn't breathe previously, they let up and then he started fighting them again? Is there a video out there that shows the whole thing start to finish? How long did they keep their knee on his neck after he lost consciousness? It takes about 2-3 minutes to suffocate someone. Did they keep the knee on him that long? Was the knee directly on his wind pipe? As someone who has been chocked unconscious multiple times (jiu jitsu) I can tell you that it's not easy to choke someone out unless you are blocking the windpipe and both veins on each side of the neck. Generally speaking if you can talk, you can breathe. Do we even know that he suffocated? Is it possible he had a heart attack after 20 seconds of the knee on the neck? Anyway, I'm not saying these cops didn't do anything wrong. I'm not a cop, I don't know what all the appropriate procedures are. I just know short video clips don't always tell the whole story. I hate to see anyone die regardless or race or creed. I also know that most cops are fundamentally good people, and I highly doubt they were intentionally trying to kill the man. We have a legal system, let's let it work and all the facts will come out in front of a jury.
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Re: Minnesota cops
[Re: bloo_rainger]
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05/27/20 03:12 PM
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BCBassCat
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Not taking sides. I just wonder what the guys record was?
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Re: Minnesota cops
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05/27/20 03:14 PM
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crankn101
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Not taking sides. I just wonder what the guys record was? The cop? He has priors
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Re: Minnesota cops
[Re: bloo_rainger]
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05/27/20 03:15 PM
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Chris B
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Don't know what started this but the cops took it to far in the end.
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Re: Minnesota cops
[Re: crankn101]
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05/27/20 03:16 PM
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Bigbob_FTW
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Not taking sides. I just wonder what the guys record was? The cop? He has priors heard that too.
FJB
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Re: Minnesota cops
[Re: beartrap]
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05/27/20 03:20 PM
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crankn101
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Comply or face on the spot execution.
I’ll bet the officers are possibly rethinking that maybe the could have handled things differently.
But we don’t fully know yet what happened before the video and how combative that dude was at the time. he was combative enough to where it took more than one officer to wrestle him to the ground and put handcuffs on him......it's pretty easy to play "Monday morning quarterback" on these situations but the reality is that there is no time to plan your moves when you are in the middle of a fight with a grown man...you are trying to immobilize him any way possible to keep him from hurting or killing you.....again...stop resisting arrest or fleeing from the police and we would have ZERO instances of black lives matter protests..... WOULD YOU CHOOSE A CAREER AS A POLICE OFFICER IN MINNEAPOLIS OR ANY OTHER METRO AREA? No, I wouldn't choose a job that requires me to break the Constitution daily. That's just me and my beliefs. I have never been a fan of the Redcoats.
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Re: Minnesota cops
[Re: bloo_rainger]
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05/27/20 03:28 PM
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soggybottom
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you pull over enough people and eventually someone is going to get murdered, its common sense. If people would just do what they are told then people wouldn't have to get murdered. Bottom line.
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Re: Minnesota cops
[Re: beartrap]
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05/27/20 04:04 PM
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Duck_Hunter
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Comply or face on the spot execution.
I’ll bet the officers are possibly rethinking that maybe the could have handled things differently.
But we don’t fully know yet what happened before the video and how combative that dude was at the time. he was combative enough to where it took more than one officer to wrestle him to the ground and put handcuffs on him......it's pretty easy to play "Monday morning quarterback" on these situations but the reality is that there is no time to plan your moves when you are in the middle of a fight with a grown man...you are trying to immobilize him any way possible to keep him from hurting or killing you.....again...stop resisting arrest or fleeing from the police and we would have ZERO instances of black lives matter protests..... WOULD YOU CHOOSE A CAREER AS A POLICE OFFICER IN MINNEAPOLIS OR ANY OTHER METRO AREA? Wasn’t a knee on the guy’s neck for five minutes? Five minutes isn’t “no time to plan.” Five minutes is a long time. And I’m not saying the guy didn’t need to be restrained. I’m saying putting your weight on his neck with your knee was wrong. Maybe putting your weight with your knee in his back would’ve also restrained him without killing him. Or using more than one officer to do so after he was handcuffed. I don’t know. All I know is putting a knee on someone’s neck for five minutes is wrong, especially when it results in the death of someone.
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Re: Minnesota cops
[Re: bloo_rainger]
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05/27/20 04:06 PM
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Bigbob_FTW
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I wonder when forgery became a capitol offense?
FJB
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Re: Minnesota cops
[Re: crankn101]
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05/27/20 04:06 PM
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BCBassCat
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Not taking sides. I just wonder what the guys record was? The cop? He has priors Actually the guy arrested, but yes both guys.
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