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Re: Can someone explain this to me?
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05/02/20 03:25 PM
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they needed the numbers to be higher to justify the shut down and not cause riots. That is why they were paying extra for hospitals to say they died from covid. I think Trump and others were lied to in the beginning. Trump had already called for the shut down. I bet if he had to do it again he may change to more like Japan and sweden.
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Re: Can someone explain this to me?
[Re: Duck_Hunter]
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05/02/20 03:32 PM
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Numbers were padded. In Pennsylvania a bunch of coroners came forward with statements they were coerced into changing cause of death on the deceased death certificates.
Somehow commodities were always counted as a COVID death. I think records are being reexamined and corrections being made.
There is also the deal with hospitals get more reimbursement with a COVID death so death certificates were filled out that way.
Advice? Wise men don't need it. Fools won't heed it.
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Re: Can someone explain this to me?
[Re: Duck_Hunter]
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05/02/20 03:35 PM
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The 64,000 dollar question is why would the government pay to falsifie the numbers??????
not that our own government would keep things from us, to move us in a direction.
like socialism
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Re: Can someone explain this to me?
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05/02/20 03:42 PM
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The 64,000 dollar question is why would the government pay to falsifie the numbers??????
not that our own government would keep things from us, to move us in a direction. like socialism The CDC gave the guidelines and they have an agenda too. Do not think their funding hasn’t gone up exponentially since this happened. The CDC and other high contagion drs and scientists get the limelight about once every four or five years and they are going to make the most of it. Then of course you have liberal politicians who’s motto is Never let a good crisis go unexploited!
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Re: Can someone explain this to me?
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05/02/20 03:43 PM
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So the American public was duped?
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Re: Can someone explain this to me?
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05/02/20 03:47 PM
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Lots of people think they had it, it's plausible that lots of people think their loved ones died from it. The Texas guidelines leave cause of death somewhat open to subjectivity. Other states, they probably cheated
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Re: Can someone explain this to me?
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05/02/20 03:47 PM
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So the American public was duped? As usual.
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Re: Can someone explain this to me?
[Re: RayBob]
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05/02/20 03:47 PM
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Numbers were padded. In Pennsylvania a bunch of coroners came forward with statements they were coerced into changing cause of death on the deceased death certificates.
Somehow commodities were always counted as a COVID death. I think records are being reexamined and corrections being made.
There is also the deal with hospitals get more reimbursement with a COVID death so death certificates were filled out that way. Thank you.
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Re: Can someone explain this to me?
[Re: TexDawg]
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05/02/20 03:50 PM
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So the American public was duped? duh?
Advice? Wise men don't need it. Fools won't heed it.
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Re: Can someone explain this to me?
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05/02/20 03:56 PM
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From the article you posted but doesn't seem like you read; "It is important to note that it can take several weeks for death records to be submitted to National Center for Health Statistics (NCHS)" Two weeks ago the numbers were around 37,000.
This thread needs more cowbell ...
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Re: Can someone explain this to me?
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05/02/20 04:00 PM
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From the article you posted but doesn't seem like you read; "It is important to note that it can take several weeks for death records to be submitted to National Center for Health Statistics (NCHS)" Seems that statement would make the numbers go up, not down. A death record is not submitted without the cause.
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Re: Can someone explain this to me?
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05/02/20 04:01 PM
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From the article you posted but doesn't seem like you read; "It is important to note that it can take several weeks for death records to be submitted to National Center for Health Statistics (NCHS)" Seems that statement would make the numbers go up, not down. They did go up. They go up every day.
This thread needs more cowbell ...
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Re: Can someone explain this to me?
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05/02/20 04:02 PM
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From the article you posted but doesn't seem like you read; "It is important to note that it can take several weeks for death records to be submitted to National Center for Health Statistics (NCHS)" I did read that, thanks. All week we’ve been hearing how more people have died from Covid than died in Vietnam. Now, the official numbers have been revised down to 37,000, indicating that the numbers previously reported were extremely high. Are you contending that caveat you copy/pasted indicates that the numbers will shoot back up next week after being revised down this week?
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Re: Can someone explain this to me?
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05/02/20 04:02 PM
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So the American public was duped? duh? I don't want to say COVID isn't real nor dangerous. Obviously after my experiences that would be stoopid. But there seems to be some kind coordinated manipulation of numbers and news and too much misinformation from "official" sources (Feds).
Advice? Wise men don't need it. Fools won't heed it.
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