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Re: Can we quit China [Re: slim 285] #13538860 04/29/20 12:28 PM
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We just need to eliminate unions and the minimum wage. Lowering the cost of labor would increase our ability to produce goods and it would help reduce unemployment.

Re: Can we quit China [Re: slim 285] #13538878 04/29/20 12:45 PM
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I don't think we can beat China at their own game. We have let ourselves get behind in a lot of technology while they were improving. I have noticed that many of the top scientist in this country are of Oriental decent. Not sure how the smartest of theirs compared to the smartest of ours would turn out. I see that the valedictorian in many graduating classes are of some other nationality. That has illustrated the lower priority we have placed on education compared families that have immigrated here from some countries.

Re: Can we quit China [Re: slim 285] #13538881 04/29/20 12:48 PM
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Our automotive industry was in the ditch a few years ago because the quality was horrible compared to a number of imports. The industry finally woke up and quality became a higher priority and today, US made vehicles are probably as good as imports.

Re: Can we quit China [Re: slim 285] #13538895 04/29/20 01:00 PM
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Plus we have lots of raw material exports to China including many ag products. Those markets will be decimated if not allowed to export to China.

Re: Can we quit China [Re: slim 285] #13538906 04/29/20 01:10 PM
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Screw the Chinese. No one needs them except the North Koreans.




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Re: Can we quit China [Re: slim 285] #13538921 04/29/20 01:21 PM
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We could, but we will not. Six months after the Rona is history...it will be forgotten and businesses will be chasing the Chinese money.


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Re: Can we quit China [Re: silvers] #13538943 04/29/20 01:36 PM
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Originally Posted by silvers
Mexico can build anything


The reason China will always be picked over Mexico is money. China has the infrastructure, and technology to build technical products. They build their own machinery, molds, and computer program. It doesn’t cost a US company much to get a product built their because China because China shoulders most of the up front cost.
Also Chinas population is well educated in general and very well educated in their employment field.
Mexico has no money so a US company that wants to manufacture there usually has to build a plant, buy the machinery, build the computerized equipment. Plus Mexico workers are poorly educated and do not have any specialty training. So the US has to shoulder that cost also.
It actually cost a lot more to build in Mexico than China.
I wish the US could move away from China products but don’t see it happening to a huge degree.

Re: Can we quit China [Re: slim 285] #13538945 04/29/20 01:36 PM
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Re: Can we quit China [Re: slim 285] #13538949 04/29/20 01:39 PM
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Would be difficult to quit 100 percent. We could scale down a lot but not 100 percent.


Side Note: Medical supplies including medicines need to be manufactured here in the USA! flag

Re: Can we quit China [Re: MARKIT] #13538951 04/29/20 01:41 PM
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Originally Posted by MARKIT
I think the USA will have to step up our game a bit to compete with china as far as manufacturing
almost every old school brand name you grew up with is now made in china,
not just harbor freight its the same thing a lowes and HD, all made in china

not sure Americans have the technology to put together a TV anymore, if we did it would cost 50,000 bucks


Step up our game? Our Game is already light years ahead of China. Their "game" is CHILD LABOR, inferior raw materials, [censored] engineering, huge manufacturing tolerances, reverse engineering out designs, no cost of following safety standards.

Americans have the technology to do ANYTHING any other country can do. China steals our technology. They are the least innovative country on the planet. All they do is steal our technology and use all the things I said to make cheap sheet products that fall apart in the box on the way over.

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Re: Can we quit China [Re: slim 285] #13538963 04/29/20 01:48 PM
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Good Post ReelSlow, I agree.

The CCP is obsessed with having anything any other country has. It is a country with a massive inferiority complex that will screw over anyone to achieve their goals.

They can rot in Hades

Re: Can we quit China [Re: slim 285] #13538999 04/29/20 02:11 PM
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For a few years I was into buying only American made when it was available. I have moved to buying the best made/longest lasting of the item that I want/need. Some of that is in the USA, some Europe, some Asia, some north and south of our borders. The only way the good old USA can compete is through top quality and automation. Cheap labor usually gives you a cheap product.


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Re: Can we quit China [Re: Samsonsworld] #13539664 04/29/20 11:30 PM
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Originally Posted by Samsonsworld
We just need to eliminate unions and the minimum wage. Lowering the cost of labor would increase our ability to produce goods and it would help reduce unemployment.


You see a future where factory workers will be earning barely enough for a bowl of rice and beans and a cot to sleep on. I don't see that happening but maybe that is the future.

Re: Can we quit China [Re: Flip-n-go] #13539669 04/29/20 11:34 PM
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Originally Posted by Flip-n-go
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With the cartels controlling Mexico I don’t know if it will ever change .


Would dealing with the cartels be better than dealing with Communist China? Maybe.



cartels don't have nukes and missiles to send them. just sayin


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Re: Can we quit China [Re: pchapin] #13539677 04/29/20 11:39 PM
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Originally Posted by pchapin
Originally Posted by Samsonsworld
We just need to eliminate unions and the minimum wage. Lowering the cost of labor would increase our ability to produce goods and it would help reduce unemployment.


You see a future where factory workers will be earning barely enough for a bowl of rice and beans and a cot to sleep on. I don't see that happening but maybe that is the future.


But they would have free healthcare and masters degrees in studies. The model exists.

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