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Re: New York changing its tune
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04/07/20 01:52 PM
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Per the media 700 dead a day in new york alone. There should be close to 5,000 bodies a week backed up waiting on paperwork. Paper work is 7 days behind. So media talking 5,000 bodies for the week and they keep showing no more than 3 or 4.
Thats like the media reporting thousends of birds dropping out of the sky in houston. And the video show 3 dead birds
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Re: New York changing its tune
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04/07/20 02:02 PM
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Oh and i see democrats still pointing fingers at the russians. Geeez
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Re: New York changing its tune
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04/07/20 02:09 PM
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Funny how all the videos of New York’s empty trauma centers/ hospitals show what’s really happening now New York went from predicting into the worst 2 weeks of cases / deaths to leveling off. No rise in cases the last couple days
New York also saying we don’t need any more ventilators after all the rant needing 100,000 ventilators. All this with 2 days of those videos coming out So you’re disappointed that only 5,000 people in the state have died, half of those in New York City. More than 120,000 residents have tested positive, and more than 16,000 are hospitalized. Some overwhelmed hospitals are sending home people who are in less dire shape, but whom they would admit in normal circumstances. That’s not enough death and chaos for you? I didn't interpret his post as a disappointment there wasn't more death and chaos, just a poor attempt at pointing out some ineptness of government at the NY state level. Can't imagine ANYONE wanting more death and chaos and posting that desire here. I doubt you saw it that way either . Cuomo, in a well publicized report in 2015, was told that in a severe pandemic (COVID-19 fits that description) that the state would have a shortfall of nearly 16,000 ventilators. He did nothing to prepare with more vents after he received that report. Then he blames Trump, multiple times, who has a whole country to manage. Now it looks like all the bluster by Cuomo was, well, ... bluster. Bottom line is that governor has poor judgement and foresight.
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Re: New York changing its tune
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04/07/20 02:22 PM
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Your not hearing what i am saying. Look at the actual videos last week how the new york hospitals look. Its a ghost town. Nobody inside. Nobody standing in line. But the media says people standing in line 4 hours. Also media says hospitals look like a war zone. Videos on news show 2 or 3 bodies. Nothing to support 700 bodies a day.
For being the epicenter with 1200 news cases a day per the media it shouldnt look like a ghost town at multiple new york hospitals like videos show Those videos are known to be actively being pushed around by Russia and China as disinformation. They are trying to convince American's the virus is a big hoax to create internal strife and get as many people infected as possible. Cheapest way they can weaken their enemy. What those video's show is empty waiting rooms. The waiting rooms in virtually all hospitals are empty now. Nobody in their right mind is going to a hospital right unless they are on their death bed. Those empty lines at the testing stations? Isn't it possible they went there after hours? None of those video's were date or time stamped. None of those video's show the ICU rooms. To play devils advocate sir, where are the time stamps for the news media? Not saying right or wrong, but how do we know those national news media places are showing video from say 9/11? Or the Australia fires? Or a hospital in Italy? Again, just wondering where the actual NEWS media is getting their video from?
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Re: New York changing its tune
[Re: franchi]
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04/07/20 02:25 PM
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Conspiracy theories about conspiracy theories. LOL!
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Re: New York changing its tune
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04/07/20 02:30 PM
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Your not hearing what i am saying. Look at the actual videos last week how the new york hospitals look. Its a ghost town. Nobody inside. Nobody standing in line. But the media says people standing in line 4 hours. Also media says hospitals look like a war zone. Videos on news show 2 or 3 bodies. Nothing to support 700 bodies a day.
For being the epicenter with 1200 news cases a day per the media it shouldnt look like a ghost town at multiple new york hospitals like videos show Those videos are known to be actively being pushed around by Russia and China as disinformation. They are trying to convince American's the virus is a big hoax to create internal strife and get as many people infected as possible. Cheapest way they can weaken their enemy. What those video's show is empty waiting rooms. The waiting rooms in virtually all hospitals are empty now. Nobody in their right mind is going to a hospital right unless they are on their death bed. Those empty lines at the testing stations? Isn't it possible they went there after hours? None of those video's were date or time stamped. None of those video's show the ICU rooms. To play devils advocate sir, where are the time stamps for the news media? Not saying right or wrong, but how do we know those national news media places are showing video from say 9/11? Or the Australia fires? Or a hospital in Italy? Again, just wondering where the actual NEWS media is getting their video from? I watch several "Live" videos from various big city "hot spots" and there were no people in line at any of them. I agree about the waiting rooms being empty because they said only real emergencies need to show up so all the "uninsured" people aren't cramming them for their regular doctor visits. Too many big hospitals furloughing 100's of employees because there is a lack of COVID-19 cases and with all of the others staying home there are no patients to treat.
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Re: New York changing its tune
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04/07/20 02:31 PM
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Funny how all the videos of New York’s empty trauma centers/ hospitals show what’s really happening now New York went from predicting into the worst 2 weeks of cases / deaths to leveling off. No rise in cases the last couple days
New York also saying we don’t need any more ventilators after all the rant needing 100,000 ventilators. All this with 2 days of those videos coming out So you’re disappointed that only 5,000 people in the state have died, half of those in New York City. More than 120,000 residents have tested positive, and more than 16,000 are hospitalized. Some overwhelmed hospitals are sending home people who are in less dire shape, but whom they would admit in normal circumstances. That’s not enough death and chaos for you? I didn't interpret his post as a disappointment there wasn't more death and chaos, just a poor attempt at pointing out some ineptness of government at the NY state level. Can't imagine ANYONE wanting more death and chaos and posting that desire here. I doubt you saw it that way either . Cuomo, in a well publicized report in 2015, was told that in a severe pandemic (COVID-19 fits that description) that the state would have a shortfall of nearly 16,000 ventilators. He did nothing to prepare with more vents after he received that report. Then he blames Trump, multiple times, who has a whole country to manage. Now it looks like all the bluster by Cuomo was, well, ... bluster. Bottom line is that governor has poor judgement and foresight. How do you explain then that Florida, governed by the Republican Trump sycophant Ron DeSantis, has had its requests for equipment from America’s emergency stockpile entirely fulfilled, while other states are receiving only a fraction of what they ask for. It’s well documented that Trump has instructed staff to limit equipment requests from blue states like Washington, New York and Michigan
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Re: New York changing its tune
[Re: franchi]
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04/07/20 02:40 PM
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Per the media 700 dead a day in new york alone. There should be close to 5,000 bodies a week backed up waiting on paperwork. Paper work is 7 days behind. So media talking 5,000 bodies for the week and they keep showing no more than 3 or 4.
Thats like the media reporting thousends of birds dropping out of the sky in houston. And the video show 3 dead birds "Per the media …" Which media? Do you have a link to support that? So media talking 5,000 bodies for the week and they keep showing no more than 3 or 4". Again, do you have a source. And your statement is strange if I'm reading it correctly. You're saying the media is saying there are 5,000 bodies for the week, but the same media keeps showing no more than 3 or 4.
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Re: New York changing its tune
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04/07/20 02:53 PM
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[/quote]To play devils advocate sir, where are the time stamps for the news media? Not saying right or wrong, but how do we know those national news media places are showing video from say 9/11? Or the Australia fires? Or a hospital in Italy? Again, just wondering where the actual NEWS media is getting their video from?[/quote]
Happens all the time. Recently a hospital pic from “NYC” was actually in Italy and bombing in Syria was filmed in Kentucky.
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Re: New York changing its tune
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04/07/20 02:58 PM
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No of course i dont want more deaths. I want the media reporting and what is seen in there videos to match. Media says new york elmhurst hospital is overwelmed and people waiting in line to get in for 4 hours. In the back ground there are 5 people in line. Next day another video of elmhurst shows nobody in line. 2 people inside the waiting room
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Re: New York changing its tune
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04/07/20 03:01 PM
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Your not hearing what i am saying. Look at the actual videos last week how the new york hospitals look. Its a ghost town. Nobody inside. Nobody standing in line. But the media says people standing in line 4 hours. Also media says hospitals look like a war zone. Videos on news show 2 or 3 bodies. Nothing to support 700 bodies a day.
For being the epicenter with 1200 news cases a day per the media it shouldnt look like a ghost town at multiple new york hospitals like videos show Are you suggesting that these death numbers are fabricated?
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Re: New York changing its tune
[Re: franchi]
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04/07/20 03:01 PM
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Because a good number of them are dying at home, probably because of the health care costs to be admitted.
"An estimated additional 180 - 195 deaths per day occurring at home in New York City due to COVID-19 are not being counted in the official figures. "Early on in this crisis we were able to swab people who died at home, and thus got a coronavirus reading. But those days are long gone. We simply don't have the testing capacity for the large numbers dying at home. Now only those few who had a test confirmation *before* dying are marked as victims of coronavirus on their death certificate. This almost certainly means we are undercounting the total number of victims of this pandemic," said Mark Levine, Chair of New York City Council health committee [source]
A study by disease modelers at the University of Texas at Austin states that "Given the low testing rates throughout the country, we assume that 1 in 10 cases are tested and reported. If a county has detected only 1 case of COVID-19, there is a 51% chance that there is already a growing outbreak underway" [source]
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Re: New York changing its tune
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04/07/20 03:24 PM
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Your not hearing what i am saying. Look at the actual videos last week how the new york hospitals look. Its a ghost town. Nobody inside. Nobody standing in line. But the media says people standing in line 4 hours. Also media says hospitals look like a war zone. Videos on news show 2 or 3 bodies. Nothing to support 700 bodies a day.
For being the epicenter with 1200 news cases a day per the media it shouldnt look like a ghost town at multiple new york hospitals like videos show Those videos are known to be actively being pushed around by Russia and China as disinformation. They are trying to convince American's the virus is a big hoax to create internal strife and get as many people infected as possible. Cheapest way they can weaken their enemy. What those video's show is empty waiting rooms. The waiting rooms in virtually all hospitals are empty now. Nobody in their right mind is going to a hospital right unless they are on their death bed. Those empty lines at the testing stations? Isn't it possible they went there after hours? None of those video's were date or time stamped. None of those video's show the ICU rooms. To play devils advocate sir, where are the time stamps for the news media? Not saying right or wrong, but how do we know those national news media places are showing video from say 9/11? Or the Australia fires? Or a hospital in Italy? Again, just wondering where the actual NEWS media is getting their video from? Well the people have masks on which is a good indication it's not from another disaster. Do we think NBC hired a bunch of actors? I'm sure the media tries to get the best angle for a shot to make it look as bad as possible. I also know for sure at least one network showed footage from Italy and claimed it was in the US. I hope whoever aired that gets fired. I think it's very dangerous to suggest this is a massive global hoax.
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Re: New York changing its tune
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04/07/20 04:12 PM
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We will see. But it is easy to alarm citizens when they have no confidence in the leadership to say or do the right thing. Not sure how we suddenly got to believing that we are out of the woods. Is it believing what we want to hear or is it based on legitimate analysis?
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Re: New York changing its tune
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We will see. But it is easy to alarm citizens when they have no confidence in the leadership to say or do the right thing. Not sure how we suddenly got to believing that we are out of the woods. Is it believing what we want to hear or is it based on legitimate analysis? We're not out of the woods, but any good news is going to be jumped on with both hands and feet. There's been too much bad that we had to pay attention to for too long.
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