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 Re: Japan
[Re: John175☮]
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03/31/20 12:24 AM
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WAWI
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So have we flattened the curve yet? The stock market and employment curve has been flattened. Smashed
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Re: Japan
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03/31/20 12:29 AM
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rich777
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The data will never be correct. The numbers will never tell the whole story
Not one person knows, how many people are infected. We as a country will not know how long this virus has been here.
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Re: Japan
[Re: rich777]
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03/31/20 01:32 AM
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Jpurdue
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Hard numbers. Clear data. Did you watch the video? It has hard numbers and extremely clear data. I agree we don’t know the total number of cars right now but we’ll be able to estimate it closely eventually. Well also know to a week or two how long the virus has been here once we knew the R0 for sure and can test for antibodies. At that point it’s just math with a fairly narrow range and a high confidence interval.
"Bragging may not bring happiness, but no man having caught a large fish goes home through an alley." -A.L. www.LunkerLore.com
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Re: Japan
[Re: 9094]
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03/31/20 01:43 AM
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TxBassSniper
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So Japan was one of the first countries hit yet only has 900 cases total and few deaths.
They have not locked down the public, closed businesses, or collapsed their economy in panic.
Japan is one of the most concentrated populations on earth yet people are not dying or even getting sick
They are not diagnosing every cold with fever as corona virus and are actually testing for it.
We are not testing everyone and saying everyone with the cold and fever has it.
Japan smart, America dumb. Are we talking about the same country that put a nuclear power plant right on the edge of the Pacific where tsunami's and earthquakes have been happening since recorded history? The same country that contaminated hundreds of miles of their own land and thousands of miles of the world's oceans? Yea they are real [censored] smart.
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Re: Japan
[Re: 9094]
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03/31/20 01:51 AM
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Gusick
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I don't know why exact numbers are important right now. It doesn't matter if the death rate is 2% or 18.5%, hospitals are filling up. We have a problem and we need a vaccine.
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Re: Japan
[Re: Gusick]
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03/31/20 02:05 AM
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Snakeyes711
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I don't know why exact numbers are important right now. It doesn't matter if the death rate is 2% or 18.5%, hospitals are filling up. We have a problem and we need a vaccine. Interesting way to look at it. I kind of have the opposite viewpoint. To me the death count is the bottom line and the only thing that matters. If its not killing people what reason is there to worry about it?
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Re: Japan
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03/31/20 02:16 AM
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CCTX
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Hospitals fill up=delays=other people suffer or die
Other people are already suffering—can’t get hip or knee replacements currently. Almost impossible to get spine surgery right now.
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Re: Japan
[Re: Jpurdue]
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03/31/20 02:17 AM
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rich777
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Hard numbers. Clear data. Did you watch the video? It has hard numbers and extremely clear data. I agree we don’t know the total number of cars right now but we’ll be able to estimate it closely eventually. Well also know to a week or two how long the virus has been here once we knew the R0 for sure and can test for antibodies. At that point it’s just math with a fairly narrow range and a high confidence interval. Yes. I did watch. Where did the data presented originate? Who generated the data, are the numbers reliable?
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Re: Japan
[Re: CCTX]
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03/31/20 02:17 AM
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ReelBusy
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Hospitals fill up=delays=other people suffer or die
Other people are already suffering—can’t get hip or knee replacements currently. Almost impossible to get spine surgery right now. Are there that many cases in the hospital right now or just anticipation?
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Re: Japan
[Re: ReelBusy]
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03/31/20 02:22 AM
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Gusick
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Hospitals fill up=delays=other people suffer or die
Other people are already suffering—can’t get hip or knee replacements currently. Almost impossible to get spine surgery right now. Are there that many cases in the hospital right now or just anticipation? It's like that in parts of Italy, China, US, and Spain, I believe. It is anticipated to happen nearly everywhere.
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Re: Japan
[Re: CCTX]
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03/31/20 02:26 AM
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Snakeyes711
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Hospitals fill up=delays=other people suffer or die
Other people are already suffering—can’t get hip or knee replacements currently. Almost impossible to get spine surgery right now. Now that's a tangible problem we can actually touch...create more hospital beds.
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Re: Japan
[Re: WAWI]
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03/31/20 02:37 AM
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So have we flattened the curve yet? The stock market and employment curve has been flattened. Smashed Just wait Its fixing to make a real drop Crazy the country cant run 3 weeks without stimulus
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Re: Japan
[Re: MARKIT]
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03/31/20 02:53 AM
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Snakeyes711
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So have we flattened the curve yet? The stock market and employment curve has been flattened. Smashed Just wait Its fixing to make a real drop Crazy the country cant run 3 weeks without stimulus Nah,the bottoms in.You read it here first  . Overnight futures and Asian markets already up.
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Re: Japan
[Re: rich777]
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03/31/20 11:42 AM
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Jpurdue
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Hard numbers. Clear data. Did you watch the video? It has hard numbers and extremely clear data. I agree we don’t know the total number of cars right now but we’ll be able to estimate it closely eventually. Well also know to a week or two how long the virus has been here once we knew the R0 for sure and can test for antibodies. At that point it’s just math with a fairly narrow range and a high confidence interval. Yes. I did watch. Where did the data presented originate? Who generated the data, are the numbers reliable? It's all easily verifiable. Google is your friend, pick whichever of a dozen different sources you prefer. On total case count they are all pretty close. You said you were interested in how it compared to H1N1, start there. All the video is showing is how quickly other pandemics spread compared to this one. It's very simple data to verify.
"Bragging may not bring happiness, but no man having caught a large fish goes home through an alley." -A.L. www.LunkerLore.com
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Re: Japan
[Re: Snakeyes711]
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03/31/20 11:47 AM
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Jpurdue
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About 2600 people have died in the US from CV 19 in march. If that pace keeps up( which I don't think it will) over the next 7 months about 18,000 will have died. That's a long way from 100,000-200,000. Plain old garden variety flu has already killed 23,000 this season but the media doesn't want to mention that,conveniently. A thousand of those 2,600 people died in the last two days. No offense, but you sir are bad at math. And it took 27 days to kill the other 1600.By your math 500 people a day will die from it in US from here on out? That's ludicrous. What's ludicrous about it? It's entirely possible. I hope like crazy social distancing starts to work, or that one of these new therapies works, or that we get a vaccine tomorrow. If those things don't work 500 deaths a day in the US is entirely plausible. That's how exponential growth works. By the way, yesterday 573 died in the US.
"Bragging may not bring happiness, but no man having caught a large fish goes home through an alley." -A.L. www.LunkerLore.com
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