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Re: Quarantining all of New York
[Re: Jpurdue]
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03/28/20 09:45 PM
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BillS2006
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It's all about states rights till the governors lose control. Then it's blame Trump. It's like the Mayor of New Orleans not canceling Mardi Gras and now blaming Trump for not canceling it.
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Re: Quarantining all of New York
[Re: Tallgrass05]
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03/28/20 09:49 PM
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Snakeyes711
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Yeah, they could travel by horseback or sailboat. Ha,I'm picturing a bunch of goombahs riding out of Brooklyn on shetland ponies!
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Re: Quarantining all of New York
[Re: John175☮]
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03/28/20 09:51 PM
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Bigbob_FTW
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The way China was able to stop the virus was by completely locking down Wuhan. Nobody in or out. New York is our Wuhan. Not saying we should do that, but I don't think I'd fault Trump if he tried. Just not sure it's legally possible. I agree, and people are fleeing there and only delivering the virus across the US as they go China didn't stop it. They shut down accurate coverage. If you stop counting you can call it stopped. Yep. Why do they suddenly have millions less cell phone users recently?
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Re: Quarantining all of New York
[Re: Jpurdue]
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03/28/20 10:12 PM
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Yep, they stopped it, but somehow its global now....
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Re: Quarantining all of New York
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03/28/20 10:17 PM
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RedRanger
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Yep, they stopped it, but somehow its global now....
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Re: Quarantining all of New York
[Re: Bigbob_FTW]
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03/28/20 10:52 PM
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Jpurdue
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The way China was able to stop the virus was by completely locking down Wuhan. Nobody in or out. New York is our Wuhan. Not saying we should do that, but I don't think I'd fault Trump if he tried. Just not sure it's legally possible. I agree, and people are fleeing there and only delivering the virus across the US as they go China didn't stop it. They shut down accurate coverage. If you stop counting you can call it stopped. Yep. Why do they suddenly have millions less cell phone users recently? The jury is still out for me on China. I strongly suspect a bunch more people died than they are claiming. That said, I do think they've been successful in stopping the spread. There is zero doubt in my mind those hardcore lock-downs would work. At an enormous cost, but they work. I'd be stunned though if there isn't another outbreak as they bring everything back online.
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Re: Quarantining all of New York
[Re: Jpurdue]
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03/28/20 10:54 PM
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senko9S
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did china ever say what caused that hospital to collapse??
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Re: Quarantining all of New York
[Re: Jpurdue]
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03/28/20 11:00 PM
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Bigbob_FTW
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The jury is still out for me on China. I strongly suspect a bunch more people died than they are claiming. That said, I do think they've been successful in stopping the spread. There is zero doubt in my mind those hardcore lock-downs would work. At an enormous cost, but they work. I'd be stunned though if there isn't another outbreak as they bring everything back online.
Agreed.
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Re: Quarantining all of New York
[Re: Jpurdue]
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03/28/20 11:03 PM
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It ain't working but hey...let's keep it up. "New York Gov. Andrew Cuomo said Saturday in an interview with CNN that he didn't believe a possible New York quarantine was legal and that it would be a "federal declaration of war" after President Donald Trump said he was considering such a tactic for the New York metro area as US coronavirus cases increase. "It would be chaos and mayhem," Cuomo told CNN's Ana Cabrera. "It's totally opposite everything he's been saying. I don't think it is plausible. I don't think it is legal." https://www.cnn.com/2020/03/28/politics/cuomo-ny-quarantine-cnntv/index.html
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Re: Quarantining all of New York
[Re: senko9S]
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03/28/20 11:04 PM
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did china ever say what caused that hospital to collapse?? It was Chinese, nothing lasts long from China
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Re: Quarantining all of New York
[Re: John175☮]
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03/28/20 11:11 PM
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RayBob
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It ain't working but hey...let's keep it up. "New York Gov. Andrew Cuomo said Saturday in an interview with CNN that he didn't believe a possible New York quarantine was legal and that it would be a "federal declaration of war" after President Donald Trump said he was considering such a tactic for the New York metro area as US coronavirus cases increase. "It would be chaos and mayhem," Cuomo told CNN's Ana Cabrera. "It's totally opposite everything he's been saying. I don't think it is plausible. I don't think it is legal." https://www.cnn.com/2020/03/28/politics/cuomo-ny-quarantine-cnntv/index.html The RI Nat'l Guard is turning all NY vehicles back from their borders. Trump may not have to do anything if the states bordering NY won't let those vehicles cross their state lines. NY is America's Italy.
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Re: Quarantining all of New York
[Re: Jpurdue]
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03/28/20 11:13 PM
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Honestly it's probably not legal - I hate to agree with an imbessel like Cuomo, but it's probably not legal.
On the flip side, this thing is going to spread nation-wide and shut down huge chunks of the country if they don't do something like that. He's danged if he does and danged if he doesn't.
Problem is people have been spreading it all last week and that's not even in the numbers yet. A week from now we will be in the range of 300k confirmed cases and somewhere in the 1M range a week or so after that. Maybe folks will start to take it seriously then...
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Re: Quarantining all of New York
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03/28/20 11:18 PM
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uncle_bagster
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It ain't working but hey...let's keep it up. "New York Gov. Andrew Cuomo said Saturday in an interview with CNN that he didn't believe a possible New York quarantine was legal and that it would be a "federal declaration of war" after President Donald Trump said he was considering such a tactic for the New York metro area as US coronavirus cases increase. "It would be chaos and mayhem," Cuomo told CNN's Ana Cabrera. "It's totally opposite everything he's been saying. I don't think it is plausible. I don't think it is legal." https://www.cnn.com/2020/03/28/politics/cuomo-ny-quarantine-cnntv/index.html The RI Nat'l Guard is turning all NY vehicles back from their borders. Trump may not have to do anything if the states bordering NY won't let those vehicles cross their state lines. NY is America's Italy. This is starting to sound like a Stephen King novel. If this virus doesn't die out pretty quick, things are liable to get downright hairy.
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Re: Quarantining all of New York
[Re: Jpurdue]
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03/28/20 11:22 PM
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Der Vorsteher
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One of three confirmed cases here in longview is a long haul truck driver who just came from New Jersey.
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Re: Quarantining all of New York
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03/28/20 11:30 PM
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RayBob
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It ain't working but hey...let's keep it up. "New York Gov. Andrew Cuomo said Saturday in an interview with CNN that he didn't believe a possible New York quarantine was legal and that it would be a "federal declaration of war" after President Donald Trump said he was considering such a tactic for the New York metro area as US coronavirus cases increase. "It would be chaos and mayhem," Cuomo told CNN's Ana Cabrera. "It's totally opposite everything he's been saying. I don't think it is plausible. I don't think it is legal." https://www.cnn.com/2020/03/28/politics/cuomo-ny-quarantine-cnntv/index.html The RI Nat'l Guard is turning all NY vehicles back from their borders. Trump may not have to do anything if the states bordering NY won't let those vehicles cross their state lines. NY is America's Italy. This is starting to sound like a Stephen King novel. If this virus doesn't die out pretty quick, things are liable to get downright hairy. Well, I think Cuomo is a grandstanding azz! The 40,000 ventilators thing is way overblown. I think he is politically posturing. If he had 40K vents he wouldn't have near enough medical personnel to manage them. You don't just plug a person to them and turn it on. They sometimes need hourly oversight and many patients need very frequent in-line suctioning to manage pulmonary secretions. It takes one respiratory therapists to manage 5-7 vents. There just isn't that kind of medical personnel there. Fla. governor is blocking all travel from NY and La..
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