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Threatened at gun point #13457172 03/02/20 05:05 AM
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Was fishing my first tournament with a buddy of mine on Dickinson Bayou this past Saturday. We went into a cutout in the bayou that had a dock on it. Long story short we were told we were in a private marina, on private property, blah blah. Next thing you know the guy is pointing a gun at us threatening to shoot us. So after an exchange of words we troll out and call the PD. They went over there but of course the guy “wasn’t there” and it will be handed over to the investigation department. It being a Saturday I tried to call TPWD to get a game warden involved but I had no luck getting ahold of anyone. Am I wasting my time reporting it tomorrow, Monday? . Any thoughts? I apologize if this is in the wrong section, I don’t know where to post it.



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Re: Threatened at gun point [Re: Danceswitholdsmobile] #13457181 03/02/20 05:20 AM
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Re: Threatened at gun point [Re: Jimbo] #13457183 03/02/20 05:22 AM
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Yea that’s what sucks. My phone was in the glove box and I wasn’t going to go reaching for it with a gun pointed at me.


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Re: Threatened at gun point [Re: Danceswitholdsmobile] #13457186 03/02/20 05:58 AM
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I'd for sure report that!

Building a case history...so when he does it again etc



Re: Threatened at gun point [Re: Danceswitholdsmobile] #13457190 03/02/20 06:52 AM
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I know there is something about being private property of land owners who dredge out their own property. Not sure if this is one of those caseS of it or not.


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Originally Posted by Im RICK JAMES
I know there is something about being private property of land owners who dredge out their own property. Not sure if this is one of those caseS of it or not.
Would be interested if there is some specific rule for “dredged onto private property” because clearly that’s what this property owner did and spent some cash doing it. Dredging and hauling away TONS of material. Not siding with property owner at all especially when he reacts like an inbred hillbilly by initiating first contact by drawing a firearm. IF it’s not “private property” what would the legal ruling be on YOUR self defense case for shooting someone who pointed a firearm at you(certainly a threat). I’m just interested as to if there is any special case here because of the man made dredge?

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Re: Threatened at gun point [Re: Danceswitholdsmobile] #13457244 03/02/20 12:20 PM
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The property lines seem obvious. Pull up the address to find out who you're dealing with and how much $$ he has. That'll let you know if he buys his way out of this. It is he said he said, so likely nothing will happen
However, if you don't report then it won't be on record with TPWD to keep the history.


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Originally Posted by David Burton
The property lines seem obvious. Pull up the address to find out who you're dealing with and how much $$ he has. That'll let you know if he buys his way out of this. It is he said he said, so likely nothing will happen
However, if you don't report then it won't be on record with TPWD to keep the history.


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Re: Threatened at gun point [Re: Danceswitholdsmobile] #13457267 03/02/20 01:00 PM
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I'm 99% sure you can fish there legally. It's open to navigable water so it's fair game. Now, you cant get out of the boat but fishing from a boat should be perfectly legal. I would definitely get with a game warden and they will visit that land owner if it is legal for you to be there

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Property owner owns the land, NOT the water. At least thats how it works in Texas. Looks like public water to me. I'd be calling the game warden asap before someone gets hurt.

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He may shoot someone next time. report it so it will at least be on record. The guy may also be on some mental health meds


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I know the boater you were with pretty well and he is a very good guy not to mention a very non confrontational type guy as well. I don’t vouch for to many people in these situations because typically I don’t know the story. I will say this, from the story I was told that punk kid and his dad or whomever it was needs to be pistol whipped by the same pistol they pulled on you and your buddy. You need to get everyone involved that you can until someone handles this. It was my understating this punk actually pulled the trigger and it just clicked then they were trying to reload it or something like that. This kind of stuff pisses me off....Private property on a public water way or not does not warrant this reaction .

My understanding there was another angler that had a run in with these people as well. Report that to!

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HECK YES REPORT IT!!!He may be another school shooter waiting to happen!!!!

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Please report it. Also be interesting to find out the law applies here.

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People can’t just shoot people for coming on to their property anyway, and this might or likely isn’t anybody’s property other than public water. At any rate, threatening to shoot someone and pointing a gun at them sounds like a crime to me as it wasn’t a case of self defense. I’m as big as a 2nd amendment person as there is, but that amendment doesn’t give anyone the right to threaten others at gunpoint.

The landowner should have called the law and if the landowner was in the right then the LEO would have informed the boater. Canal developments on the water, that water is public water so I don’t see how this is any different.

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