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Re: thoughts (no bashers please)
[Re: Bigbob_FTW]
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02/27/20 08:41 PM
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and this is why I said "no bashing". and now you can't put the toothpaste back in the tube.
Just want to make folks smile, and spit coffee on their keyboard.
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Re: thoughts (no bashers please)
[Re: UGLYSHCTICK]
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02/27/20 08:43 PM
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and this is why I said "no bashing". and now you can't put the toothpaste back in the tube. "sigh"
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Re: thoughts (no bashers please)
[Re: Bigbob_FTW]
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02/27/20 08:46 PM
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Rigid adherence to a doctrine you don't agree with--learn to think and believe for yourself. go kill someone elses thread. You put it on a forum and then you get mad when you don’t get the feel good opinions you are wanting. Kinda odd that complete strangers are giving an opinion that would be better for the child than the existing situation. I can think of no church that would make the decision stated in this thread and I would be a part of. Ever! If God himself had given me the choice to send my son to the cross and save the world, the world would go to hell. Anyway, I hope you find what YOU are looking for Please forgive me if you truly see this as bashing. That is not the intent.
Luke 6:22-23
22 Blessed are you when people hate you, when they exclude you, insult you, and slander your name as evil because of the Son of Man.
23 Rejoice in that day and leap for joy. Take note—your reward is great in heaven, for this is the way their ancestors used to treat the prophets.
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Re: thoughts (no bashers please)
[Re: Bigbob_FTW]
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02/27/20 08:50 PM
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Interesting. The rules of the church are the rules of the church.
I did 12 years of Catholic School. Remembering back, you can't take communion if you don't have confession first. If the child is non-verbal, he can't give confession. He's not eligible for communion. It sucks. But it is what it is.
I go to a non-denominational church now that is based on Baptist teaching. They do communion quarterly but I have never partaken because I haven't been to confession. That programming and indoctrination goes VERY deep.
I don't believe that not receiving the sacrament means you don't go to heaven, but I could be wrong. I don't like changing rules for warm fuzzies so I'm gonna have to come down on the church's side with this one. It's not popular, but the rules are the the rules. I also like that if I don't like my church I can change my church. That's the family's prerogative.
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Re: thoughts (no bashers please)
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02/27/20 08:52 PM
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Interesting. The rules of the church are the rules of the church.
I did 12 years of Catholic School. Remembering back, you can't take communion if you don't have confession first. If the child is non-verbal, he can't give confession. He's not eligible for communion. It sucks. But it is what it is.
I go to a non-denominational church now that is based on Baptist teaching. They do communion quarterly but I have never partaken because I haven't been to confession. That programming and indoctrination goes VERY deep.
I don't believe that not receiving the sacrament means you don't go to heaven, but I could be wrong. I don't like changing rules for warm fuzzies so I'm gonna have to come down on the church's side with this one. It's not popular, but the rules are the the rules. I also like that if I don't like my church I can change my church. That's the family's prerogative. very well stated. as you said "I don't believe that not receiving the sacrament means you don't go to heaven". this is completely true (at least in the lutheran church). Heck, You go to heaven without getting baptized.
FJB
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Re: thoughts (no bashers please)
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02/27/20 08:53 PM
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I doubt God is as concerned about the details as the church. I’m thinking God can see what’s on the inside
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Re: thoughts (no bashers please)
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02/27/20 08:54 PM
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Does your son want to do the sacrament or do you want him to do the sacrament? If your son wants to do it of his own accord I think it's really crappy for the priest not to honor that. WWJD? I can't imagine Jesus turning away a child. If he can't make that decision for himself, I understand your desire to want him to do it, and I understand the Churches requirement that a person do it of their own mindful accord. If it's really important to you, I'd maybe explore around a bit to see if I could find another priest who would be willing to do the sacrament with your son. It could be a private matter between you, your family, and your God.
Tough situation, and I wish you the best sorting it out Bob!
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Re: thoughts (no bashers please)
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02/27/20 08:56 PM
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Does your son want to do the sacrament or do you want him to do the sacrament? If your son wants to do it of his own accord I think it's really crappy for the priest not to honor that. WWJD? I can't imagine Jesus turning away a child. If he can't make that decision for himself, I understand your desire to want him to do it, and I understand the Churches requirement that a person do it of their own mindful accord. If it's really important to you, I'd maybe explore around a bit to see if I could find another priest who would be willing to do the sacrament with your son. It could be a private matter between you, your family, and your God.
Tough situation, and I wish you the best sorting it out Bob! In my situation it's me. truth be known he probably doesn't care.
FJB
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Re: thoughts (no bashers please)
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02/27/20 09:02 PM
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The Catholic Church takes a very legalistic standpoint on matters of faith. It has written rules that members must follow, and they stick to them. Historically that has been both a strength and a weakness for them. That boy didn't follow the steps the Catholic Church requires one to follow. Therefore he didn't get to go through confirmation. They won't confirm anyone without completing these steps. While this is sad for the boy, you have to respect the church's conviction and refusal to compromise what they feel is right. not trying to make this political, but, nancy pelosi as well as a lot of other dc scum liberal/socialists claim to be catholic while at the same time saying it is okay to perform abortions up to birth. they should be excommunicated and condemned for it by the church, instead they get a pass. so much for legalistic krap, another example of why I do not partake in organized religion.
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Re: thoughts (no bashers please)
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02/27/20 09:03 PM
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Going to church doesn’t get you to heaven. The Bible is very clear about this. Look up the ‘Roman Road’.
Cast I have a short attention spa
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Re: thoughts (no bashers please)
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02/27/20 09:24 PM
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The list of things I don't know is far longer than the list of things I know. But here is one thing I KNOW: there is but one path to Heaven, and that is through Jesus Christ.
We all try to do the things we think are right. A lot of what we see as right and wrong is based on what we were taught by people - parents, priests, preachers, Sunday school teachers, etc. Sometimes right or wrong is stated in the doctrine of a church (Catholic, Lutheran, Baptist, etc.) We tend to place too much importance on human ideals and rules or guidelines we come up with ourselves, and unfortunately that can take away from our focus on God's teachings.
I stated above that I respect the fact that the Catholic priest would not compromise the rules of his church. I respect his conviction even though I disagree with the viewpoint.
The autistic kid in the article, the priest, Bob's kid, Bob, me, my kids, everyone on this thread... we will all have to stand before God in judgement. Our fate will not be determined by how strictly we followed the "rules." Our fate will be determined by Jesus Christ when he says, "Father, I know this man."
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Re: thoughts (no bashers please)
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02/27/20 09:44 PM
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takewhatyoucan64
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The pope may have the Wuhan flu .............pure justice .
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Re: thoughts (no bashers please)
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02/27/20 10:04 PM
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GIG'EM AGGIES
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" But here is one thing I KNOW: there is but one path to Heaven, and that is through Jesus Christ. " John 14:6 backs you on that COFF so I don't how anyone could disagree.
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Re: thoughts (no bashers please)
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02/27/20 10:06 PM
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The list of things I don't know is far longer than the list of things I know. But here is one thing I KNOW: there is but one path to Heaven, and that is through Jesus Christ.
We all try to do the things we think are right. A lot of what we see as right and wrong is based on what we were taught by people - parents, priests, preachers, Sunday school teachers, etc. Sometimes right or wrong is stated in the doctrine of a church (Catholic, Lutheran, Baptist, etc.) We tend to place too much importance on human ideals and rules or guidelines we come up with ourselves, and unfortunately that can take away from our focus on God's teachings.
I stated above that I respect the fact that the Catholic priest would not compromise the rules of his church. I respect his conviction even though I disagree with the viewpoint.
The autistic kid in the article, the priest, Bob's kid, Bob, me, my kids, everyone on this thread... we will all have to stand before God in judgement. Our fate will not be determined by how strictly we followed the "rules." Our fate will be determined by Jesus Christ when he says, "Father, I know this man."
FJB
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Re: thoughts (no bashers please)
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02/27/20 10:09 PM
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We partake of communion because we are unworthy. That Catholic church has it backwards
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