Lol bro, your name is dubee. You're either something people smoke, or a rapper that goes by the name Sugawolf. Also, I only comment on these threads because I like to argue and some of you guys get really offended.

Mlf does provide good exposure.... If you're catching them . If you're at the bottom you don't get mentioned... Just like bass or flw or any other event.

Except we know Mark Jones is connected to MLF. That makes a huge difference, because, even though he can’t provide proprietary and confidential details of closed-door meetings, there is context he can provide. Most importantly, you know where his bias is, and can take what he says as spin or with a grain of salt, etc. That’s a massive difference compared to someone not using their real name, or disclosing their relationship with the tour they’re defending, and that doesn’t even take into account the inflammatory language and accusations being thrown around.

The anglers that fish FLW and BASS at least get to cross the stage and plug there sponsors. Even when they finish 100th place .

I'm speechless... Lol

Sorry, but calling people shysters and frauds behind an anonymous screen name and keyboard is neither sophisticated or well thought out. In fact, it is quite cowardly.

At least Mark Jones does not hide who he is...

And as long as BASS and MLF continue to put out a product that I enjoy, I will continue to watch and follow both. Nothing that Big O or Mark Jones says will change that...

Well said.

Ok I’m an technology illiterate moron; but......do you remember when Duckett came out and said they had something like 1 millions hits on their very first tournament broadcast? They are counting every one every time it’s refreshed, no way they aren’t.


And who knows, BASS might do the same thing.

Lol bro, your name is dubee. You're either something people smoke, or a rapper that goes by the name Sugawolf. Also, I only comment on these threads because I like to argue and some of you guys get really offended. [/quote]

I have never been offended by anything said on here.

When your only argument is "well he won't tell us who he is". You got nothing. Also, I don't know that MJ is actually connected to anything. If he was, he probably wouldn't be getting into a pissing match with Big O on a public forum. If I was his employer I would tell him to stay off the forum and refrain from actually posting anything. So I am not convinced he is as close as he says. Also, go back and read most of Big O's posts. They are all well typed and free of grammatical errors (for the most part). I am not commenting on the accuracies or inaccuracies of facts because as far as I am concerned everything posted on here is more opinion than actual fact. I am simply stating that all his arguments are very clear and concise. The mlf cronies are accusing him of being factually incorrect, however none of them can actually prove he is, or that what they say isn't. The sole argument I am seeing from any of you is "well at least so so will tell us who they are". Big deal! Who cares what his name is. If a name is so important then let's call him John Smith. Both sides are very passionate, however only one side seems to be getting thrashed for their beliefs. Unless you have proof to your facts, you can't bash Big O (John Smith). And as far as I am concerned, none of you are as big a deal in real life as you are in your own minds.

I have never been offended by anything said on here. [/quote]

Good! So you do have at least 1 good quality then.

And if you listen to B Duckett or his marketing shills, that million views of their first tournament was because MLF was popular and very well known. No, they likely paid for the vast majority of that view count, by you guessed it, click farms based somewhere in Asia. They then go and put that viewership data in pitch decks and go around and tout that million viewers to sponsors and advertisers to try and sell them advertising space. The views were obtained by fraud, and the data being used to sell advertising space is a fraud.

At least the guy you’re replying to now acknowledges there long has been and there is indeed still a problem with fraud... and it’s widespread. Otherwise there wouldn’t be a whole sub-industry being built to battle it. His initial post seemed to indicate click fraud was easily eradicated because people could tell who was who by IP addresses or some dumb sh!t - here is a hint, those click farms making billions for themselves and their shyster customers per year aren’t making that by being stupid and not masking every click so not to look like they all come from the same sweatshop in a Chinese province.

My bet is they designed the clicks/views to come right from the same geographic location the advertisers they court are trying to impact the most.

I am not associated with MLF at all. What I am saying is that he, Big O, has not provided any shred of evidence to back up what he is claiming. He cannot even prove what he is purporting to be factual. I do not care who he is...but the fact that he does it anonymously only further reduces his credibility.



He is not getting bashed for his beliefs, he is getting bashed because he has repeatedly called people shysters and frauds, again, without any evidence whatsoever to support what he is claiming. Until he can prove people like KVD are actually frauds, like he has claimed, he should be called out for his non-sense.

Good! So you do have at least 1 good quality then. [/quote]
I'm not sure that i have any good qualities. I just don't get offened by what people say

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