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Boat captain question #13439168 02/14/20 04:52 AM
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Can people hire someone to be their boat captain in high school fishing. A guy told me a few years back that a kids rich parent in highland park bought a guy a brand new Skeeter so he could be a boat captain for their son and “guide” them so to speak. I figured there enough people on this forum that would know if that could be true/legal.

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One of the reasons I asked is because I started to wonder as high school fishing gets bigger, more scholarships get awarded, I wonder if it would be any different then getting a tutor in a subject in school. Or his plenty of kids spend thousands on sending their kids to hitting and pitching clinics for baseball or football camps for football. Kind of seemed like there would be a niche market there for Guide’s but different.

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Everything high school usually revolves around UIL. Don’t see why the bass team would be any different. I would check there and see what (if any) rules apply to boat captains. As far as your examples, those things usually are not involved with school functions directly.

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I could easily see that happening


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Originally Posted by SAKS
Everything high school usually revolves around UIL. Don’t see why the bass team would be any different. I would check there and see what (if any) rules apply to boat captains. As far as your examples, those things usually are not involved with school functions directly.


UIL has nothing to do with High School Bass Fishing at this time at least, but I doubt it ever will. As for the main high school tournament series, I looked at their rules and I believe this would technically be against the rules but the chances of being caught are probably slim and it is somewhat a grey area so it might not actually be against the rules. Under Purchasing of Information, their rule states no purchasing of GPS coordinates, guides or coaches. Under Captain Eligibility it states it must be a school faculty member, close family member or other individual approved by the tournament organization. Captains are allowed to receive up to $100 per day for fuel/maintenance costs.

Is there a way around it and is it possible that it has occurred? Probably if you can get them approved as a captain and then do it without anybody knowing.


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Very interesting. Thanks for the response!

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Originally Posted by CashFishingTeam
Can people hire someone to be their boat captain in high school fishing. A guy told me a few years back that a kids rich parent in highland park bought a guy a brand new Skeeter so he could be a boat captain for their son and “guide” them so to speak. I figured there enough people on this forum that would know if that could be true/legal.

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Can people hire someone to be their boat captain in high school fishing. A guy told me a few years back that a kids rich parent in highland park bought a guy a brand new Skeeter so he could be a boat captain for their son and “guide” them so to speak. I figured there enough people on this forum that would know if that could be true/legal.

Most high school tournaments don’t allow guides or pros to captain. Having a paid boat captain would make him a pro so this would probably be against the rules. I know of a series that allows pros or guides to captain as long as their kid is on the team fishing out of his or her boat. You really need to know the rules of the particular tournament series and the circumstances.


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The guy I was told about was not a guide or pro. Just a good fisherman who was a stick and won a lot of tournaments/money. Media’s, bass champs, ect...and knew the lakes really well.

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I would not be surprised in the least bit if that occurred.

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I'm just putting it out there. If some rich parent wants to buy me a new Skeeter to captain their kids I'm game.



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That’s what I’m thinking!!! I’ll even take them practicing. Give them on the lake seminars with tips and techniques. We can even put a performance clause in there! I’ll have your little Hunter or Hayden heading for a scholarship in no time! Way easier than the college scandal paying for your kids to be on fake athletic teams!

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Years ago at a skeeter owners tournament I remember a skeeter owner "partner" was Rick Loomis. He won 1st place boat. That's when I quit fishing it.

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I'm just putting it out there. If some rich parent wants to buy me a new Skeeter to captain their kids I'm game.


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Originally Posted by CashFishingTeam
The guy I was told about was not a guide or pro. Just a good fisherman who was a stick and won a lot of tournaments/money. Media’s, bass champs, ect...and knew the lakes really well.


Happens all the time.
I know guys who get called every year because they are good on the lake that the tourney is going to. Parents want the local "stick" for a captain so the kids can win.
There is only so much that can be done to try to limit this. It doesn't matter what sport little Johnny is in, there are parents who will push the envelope or flat-out cheat so that their precious bundle can win. In this instance, it comes down to the captains to police themselves.

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I dont know the rules for Deep East Texas, but my understanding of the THSBA rules is that hiring someone to captain for your kids would NOT be illegal as long as:
1. They have not been a guide on the tournament lake in the last 30 days
2. Cannot have entered a tournament with more than a $5000 entry fee
3. Must be 21 years of age
4. Must be safe sport act certified.

I'm certainly not an authority on this. Just the way I read the rules. Some of the things FXfromTX made reference to are more about the no information period than captain eligibility. As far as the $100 per day he references I have never seen that, but I don't have the rule book memorized either. I captain for my son. We have had a few instances where a captain on the team could not make a given tournament, but have always been very fortunate to be able to find other volunteers. I think it's perfectly within reason for parents to pay for gas, travel expences, hotel, etc for a volunteer captain. Those expenses will almost always be way over $100. The scenario referenced by the OP certainly violates the goal of high school fishing, no matter the rules in my opinion.

Best to email THSBA if in doubt. They usually have a very fast response time. Other organizations like deep east texas may have different rules.

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