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Re: MLF Confirms Redcrest Will be Early 2021 [Re: Big O Florida] #13419171 01/28/20 07:12 PM
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Originally Posted by Big O Florida
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Tricia Milford-Hoyt, VP Media Relations for Major League Fishing confirmed via a statement to Tulsa, OK based Podcast Show; Bass Talk Live, that the top 30 in points from the 2020 season will compete in their Redcrest Championship to be held in the spring of 2021.
In addition to the regular 2020 season, the $750k Heavy Hitters Tournament will be held in May on The Kissimmee Chain.

https://youtu.be/P_6VDLkAbVE



Where did the money go that was slated to be paid out to the anglers who qualified for the 2020 Redcrest? Just because they changed the date on the calendar for the 2021 season does not make the monies slated for the 2020 Championship tournament reappear. Someone is getting away with stripping a years worth of championship purse money away from the anglers.


Kinda like the Classic being held the following year also? Man, the big tournament types got all the moves. They’re slick, I’ll yell ya.

Re: MLF Confirms Redcrest Will be Early 2021 [Re: Mark Perry] #13419181 01/28/20 07:19 PM
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Hopefully it will be just before or just after. That way sponsors have time to go from one to the other and fans can watch both.



Hopefully those organizations keep remembering that they share the same customer base in a lot of ways.

I am kinda curious what and how the BPT anglers will be able to say at the Classic. I wonder if they will be allowed to have BPT logos on their jerseys etc while working the Classic Expo. I think its reasonable for BASS to request that they not.


Word going around there are at least 3 - 5 big former BASS names currently plying their craft for BPT who say they are not going to attend the classic in spite of their sponsors needs and wishes. They are being pouty faces and think they have more influence than they really do and by them not showing up for the classic in support of their sponsors will be making some sort of statement. Sadly, they are miscalculating as bad as MLF leadership did when they lured all those lemmings over to BPT and it’s going to backfire spectacularly. I am not sure who those anglers are listening to over there, but whomever it is, isn’t putting the best interest of the anglers first and those lemming still listening and carrying water for MLF are going to get burnt a second time over because they aren’t thinking for themselves. They won’t be coming back to BASS when that org goes down in flames... too much egg on face. Maybe they will be able to resurrect their careers and image in the upcoming NPFL tour.

Re: MLF Confirms Redcrest Will be Early 2021 [Re: machoblanco61] #13419185 01/28/20 07:21 PM
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From what I understand about what was said in the podcast is that the monies allocated for the Redcrest was moved to the heavy hitters tourny.

My thinking is that they only get so much money allocated to tourny payouts in which the reason to move the Redcrest to 2021 so they can possibly budget the money there or not have a heavy hitters next year. We shall see........


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Re: MLF Confirms Redcrest Will be Early 2021 [Re: Big O Florida] #13419186 01/28/20 07:21 PM
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Originally Posted by Big O Florida
Originally Posted by machoblanco61
Tricia Milford-Hoyt, VP Media Relations for Major League Fishing confirmed via a statement to Tulsa, OK based Podcast Show; Bass Talk Live, that the top 30 in points from the 2020 season will compete in their Redcrest Championship to be held in the spring of 2021.
In addition to the regular 2020 season, the $750k Heavy Hitters Tournament will be held in May on The Kissimmee Chain.

https://youtu.be/P_6VDLkAbVE



Where did the money go that was slated to be paid out to the anglers who qualified for the 2020 Redcrest? Just because they changed the date on the calendar for the 2021 season does not make the monies slated for the 2020 Championship tournament reappear. Someone is getting away with stripping a years worth of championship purse money away from the anglers.


You get more insane every time you post

Re: MLF Confirms Redcrest Will be Early 2021 [Re: machoblanco61] #13419189 01/28/20 07:24 PM
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Originally Posted by machoblanco61
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Tricia Milford-Hoyt, VP Media Relations for Major League Fishing confirmed via a statement to Tulsa, OK based Podcast Show; Bass Talk Live, that the top 30 in points from the 2020 season will compete in their Redcrest Championship to be held in the spring of 2021.
In addition to the regular 2020 season, the $750k Heavy Hitters Tournament will be held in May on The Kissimmee Chain.

https://youtu.be/P_6VDLkAbVE



Where did the money go that was slated to be paid out to the anglers who qualified for the 2020 Redcrest? Just because they changed the date on the calendar for the 2021 season does not make the monies slated for the 2020 Championship tournament reappear. Someone is getting away with stripping a years worth of championship purse money away from the anglers.


Kinda like the Classic being held the following year also? Man, the big tournament types got all the moves. They’re slick, I’ll yell ya.


But that’s been the way all along hasn’t it, at least in recent history it has. But that didn’t answer the question I posed. Where did the money that was slated to go to the anglers who qualified for the 2020 Redcrest go? This will be the second such championship tournament purse that’s been absorbed into the MLF corporate till... how is that demonstrate it’s a league that’s better for the anglers and growing the sport if they keep running off with promised or implied purse monies? At some point even the slowest of anglers are going to catch on to what is happening... I think some already have tbh.

Re: MLF Confirms Redcrest Will be Early 2021 [Re: Big O Florida] #13419194 01/28/20 07:28 PM
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Originally Posted by Big O Florida
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Originally Posted by Big O Florida
Originally Posted by machoblanco61
Tricia Milford-Hoyt, VP Media Relations for Major League Fishing confirmed via a statement to Tulsa, OK based Podcast Show; Bass Talk Live, that the top 30 in points from the 2020 season will compete in their Redcrest Championship to be held in the spring of 2021.
In addition to the regular 2020 season, the $750k Heavy Hitters Tournament will be held in May on The Kissimmee Chain.

https://youtu.be/P_6VDLkAbVE



Where did the money go that was slated to be paid out to the anglers who qualified for the 2020 Redcrest? Just because they changed the date on the calendar for the 2021 season does not make the monies slated for the 2020 Championship tournament reappear. Someone is getting away with stripping a years worth of championship purse money away from the anglers.


Kinda like the Classic being held the following year also? Man, the big tournament types got all the moves. They’re slick, I’ll yell ya.


But that’s been the way all along hasn’t it, at least in recent history it has. But that didn’t answer the question I posed. Where did the money that was slated to go to the anglers who qualified for the 2020 Redcrest go? This will be the second such championship tournament purse that’s been absorbed into the MLF corporate till... how is that demonstrate it’s a league that’s better for the anglers and growing the sport if they keep running off with promised or implied purse monies? At some point even the slowest of anglers are going to catch on to what is happening... I think some already have tbh.



The money is going 1 of 2 places. Someone's pocket, or being used to keep the organization afloat.


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Re: MLF Confirms Redcrest Will be Early 2021 [Re: 200ZX] #13419196 01/28/20 07:31 PM
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From what I understand about what was said in the podcast is that the monies allocated for the Redcrest was moved to the heavy hitters tourny.

My thinking is that they only get so much money allocated to tourny payouts in which the reason to move the Redcrest to 2021 so they can possibly budget the money there or not have a heavy hitters next year. We shall see........


If that is so then MLF had opportunity when they announced that knee jerk reaction tournament to clearly state the heavy hitters was going to be in leu of the Redcrest. Contrarily, the way heavy hitters was announced, it was implied this “was in addition to” the normally scheduled program. I can’t believe there aren’t some anglers over at MLF that aren’t smarter than that... some of them, at least some of them have to be seeing that MLF leadership is doing and how the type of skimming that’s is going on.

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Originally Posted by Big O Florida
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From what I understand about what was said in the podcast is that the monies allocated for the Redcrest was moved to the heavy hitters tourny.

My thinking is that they only get so much money allocated to tourny payouts in which the reason to move the Redcrest to 2021 so they can possibly budget the money there or not have a heavy hitters next year. We shall see........


If that is so then MLF had opportunity when they announced that knee jerk reaction tournament to clearly state the heavy hitters was going to be in leu of the Redcrest. Contrarily, the way heavy hitters was announced, it was implied this “was in addition to” the normally scheduled program. I can’t believe there aren’t some anglers over at MLF that aren’t smarter than that... some of them, at least some of them have to be seeing that MLF leadership is doing and how the type of skimming that’s is going on.



I think they are. Unfortunately, not all of them have the $50k to buy themselves out of a poor situation. Wait until that fee gets cut in half, or they full-fill their 3 year obligation and let's see where they are at.


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Re: MLF Confirms Redcrest Will be Early 2021 [Re: machoblanco61] #13419201 01/28/20 07:34 PM
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Big O, math's hard isn't it?

The Redcrest is being held in 2021. The payout for the last Redcrest was $739,000.

In place of Redcrest in 2020, the BPT added the "Heavy Hitters Tournament" for a total of nine, rather than 8 events. The purse for that ADDITIONAL tournament is $745,000.

Looks to me like the money is all still there, regardless of what the tournament's called.

Actually, BPT increased the 2020 payouts by $6,000

roflmao


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Re: MLF Confirms Redcrest Will be Early 2021 [Re: machoblanco61] #13419205 01/28/20 07:37 PM
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Originally Posted by machoblanco61
Originally Posted by Big O Florida
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Tricia Milford-Hoyt, VP Media Relations for Major League Fishing confirmed via a statement to Tulsa, OK based Podcast Show; Bass Talk Live, that the top 30 in points from the 2020 season will compete in their Redcrest Championship to be held in the spring of 2021.
In addition to the regular 2020 season, the $750k Heavy Hitters Tournament will be held in May on The Kissimmee Chain.

https://youtu.be/P_6VDLkAbVE



Where did the money go that was slated to be paid out to the anglers who qualified for the 2020 Redcrest? Just because they changed the date on the calendar for the 2021 season does not make the monies slated for the 2020 Championship tournament reappear. Someone is getting away with stripping a years worth of championship purse money away from the anglers.


Kinda like the Classic being held the following year also? Man, the big tournament types got all the moves. They’re slick, I’ll yell ya.

Wrong. 2005 Classic was in July in Pittsburg and won by KVD and then was moved to the first event in 2006 and won by Luke Clauson in February in FLA. They didn't skip one

Re: MLF Confirms Redcrest Will be Early 2021 [Re: fouzman] #13419212 01/28/20 07:44 PM
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Big O, math's hard isn't it?

The Redcrest is being held in 2021. The payout for the last Redcrest was $739,000.

In place of Redcrest in 2020, the BPT added the "Heavy Hitters Tournament" for a total of nine, rather than 8 events. The purse for that ADDITIONAL tournament is $745,000.

Looks to me like the money is all still there, regardless of what the tournament's called.

Actually, BPT increased the 2020 payouts by $6,000

roflmao


If that’s the case, perhaps the communications director(s) at MLF should be replaced.

Go back and look at the press release about the heavy hitters tournament. Something I call the knee jerk reaction addition. It was clearly stated in that announcement that was “in addition to” the regularly scheduled program, making it now 9. Furthermore, if It was the understanding by the anglers that was going to supersede the Redcrest, then I am pretty sure those who have a significant social media presence that has talked and promoted the heavy hitters addition would have said something, but no, they haven’t. It also seems one of the angler/owners is confused on the deal, as he didn’t mention heavy hitters being in leu of Redcrest when he made statement there was no championship tournament to fish and qualify for.

How is it one of the co-owners of the organization is so far out of the loop? Are they actually in the loop like it was implied they would be, or was that an illusion that was sold to them as a bill of goods?

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Tricia Milford-Hoyt, VP Media Relations for Major League Fishing confirmed via a statement to Tulsa, OK based Podcast Show; Bass Talk Live, that the top 30 in points from the 2020 season will compete in their Redcrest Championship to be held in the spring of 2021.
In addition to the regular 2020 season, the $750k Heavy Hitters Tournament will be held in May on The Kissimmee Chain.

https://youtu.be/P_6VDLkAbVE



Where did the money go that was slated to be paid out to the anglers who qualified for the 2020 Redcrest? Just because they changed the date on the calendar for the 2021 season does not make the monies slated for the 2020 Championship tournament reappear. Someone is getting away with stripping a years worth of championship purse money away from the anglers.


Kinda like the Classic being held the following year also? Man, the big tournament types got all the moves. They’re slick, I’ll yell ya.

Wrong. 2005 Classic was in July in Pittsburg and won by KVD and then was moved to the first event in 2006 and won by Luke Clauson in February in FLA. They didn't skip one


The MLF defenders are going to go into full defensive mode to try and make everyone not look at the fact that MLF has for a second time now skimmed championship tournament money purses away from the anglers.

Re: MLF Confirms Redcrest Will be Early 2021 [Re: machoblanco61] #13419224 01/28/20 07:50 PM
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Man, I hope they dont try to pull some b.s. with scheduling to try and foul up the classic.

Re: MLF Confirms Redcrest Will be Early 2021 [Re: machoblanco61] #13419228 01/28/20 07:54 PM
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Which championship purchases have they "skimmed"? If you're talking about purses that went away with the purchase of FLW by BPT. That's how business works, sometime. My company bought another company many years ago. My company has a max of five weeks vacation. The company we bought had a max of 6 weeks vacation. Guess what happened to that sixth week of vacation when we bought the other company. Poof! Gone.

Companies buy other companies all the time and don't carry on business the same way the company that got bought did. It's just a fact of business life. If you don't like it, start your own fishing league.

Let me make this a little easier for you. Original 2020 BPT schedule. 8 events plus Redcrest which paid out $739,000 for a total of 9 events.

New 2020 BPT schedule. 8 events plus Heavy Hitters which pays out $745,000 for a total of 9 events.

Again, BPT added $6,000 in 2020 prize money.

Please explain to me how BPT ran off with tournament purse money when they've increased the payout for 2020?

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Everything I have posted has been found on the internet. What you may deem promotional has been nothing more than countering disingenuous information often espoused by folks who run with half information. As stated, all information rendered by Macho is public information. Just following the talkers in the industry and seeking the real story. Macho has equal admiration for BASS & FLW. If the mud was slung at them, I’d say so too. Granted, sometimes it may come across with a little sarcastic comment, but the often posted “theories” and accusations are comical at times themselves.
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