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Re: Breaking Astros news [Re: Duck_Hunter] #13403170 01/13/20 10:52 PM
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Man talk about a depressing 2 days to be a Houston sports fan, really it's more embarrassment than depression. The bad part is Hinch & Luhnow knew and didn't do anything about it, Crane was right to fire them both. I can't figure out if I should be pizzed or feel bad for the players.
On the Texans side O'Brien should be fired, Romeo should be fired, but O'Brien will not be fired we've seen 6 yrs of his BS game management, play calling and whatever stupid stuff he does. Talk shows are really good in the Htown area today roflmao

Re: Breaking Astros news [Re: RO519] #13403172 01/13/20 10:52 PM
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Originally Posted by RO519
lol at the ranger fans celebrating.

I hate to see Luhnow fired, Hinch was a good manager, but he can be replaced. Luhnow rebuilt the franchise.

In any case, its going to be sweet when the Astros go scorched earth and mop the floor with the rest of the league in the revenge season. 2020 WS champs- you heard it here first.


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Re: Breaking Astros news [Re: RO519] #13403176 01/13/20 10:52 PM
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On the field the Astros have only lost Cole And Chirenos correct? They're still a pretty scary line-up without those 2.



Without the electronic eye...maybe not so much!


Originally Posted by RO519
lol at the ranger fans celebrating.

I hate to see Luhnow fired, Hinch was a good manager, but he can be replaced. Luhnow rebuilt the franchise.

In any case, its going to be sweet when the Astros go scorched earth and mop the floor with the rest of the league in the revenge season. 2020 WS champs- you heard it here first.




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Re: Breaking Astros news [Re: Duck_Hunter] #13403185 01/13/20 10:58 PM
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A question of logic but I'm not all that smart so someone explain it to me.

How do you steal signs without everyone who gets that information (players) knowing about it?
So they steal a sign, relay it to the player and the player knows whats coming. How do you only penalize the coach and GM?


Re: Breaking Astros news [Re: RO519] #13403191 01/13/20 11:06 PM
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Originally Posted by RO519
lol at the ranger fans celebrating.

I hate to see Luhnow fired, Hinch was a good manager, but he can be replaced. Luhnow rebuilt the franchise.

In any case, its going to be sweet when the Astros go scorched earth and mop the floor with the rest of the league in the revenge season. 2020 WS champs- you heard it here first.

Dream on! It was a heck of a run though.


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Re: Breaking Astros news [Re: Duck_Hunter] #13403196 01/13/20 11:08 PM
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It had to do with electronics analyzing of the replay cameras next to the dugouts, also, as well as cameras in the outfield. Whoever had to analyze what catchers signals went with what pitches were thrown. More in depth than I can understand, too. There will be more folks go down for this......Cora, Taubman, and others. They used different noise sequences in the dugout to notify the batter on what pitch is coming....

This all kinda reminds me of a Robby Rose process.....all premeditated.


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Re: Breaking Astros news [Re: Duck_Hunter] #13403210 01/13/20 11:16 PM
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the story I read said Carlos Beltran mentioned to Alex Cora that setting a TV near the dugout with a feed from center field would be the way to steal signs, so someone watches the cathsr to see whats comin and then whistles or bangs on a can and alerts the batter by a predetermined code, seems that a lot of people had to know whats going on, discipline the leaders and call it done, which is probably all you can do and still keep the team intact, I would bet that it wasnt exclusive to the Astros , but they got caught

Re: Breaking Astros news [Re: Allison1] #13403224 01/13/20 11:30 PM
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A question of logic but I'm not all that smart so someone explain it to me.

How do you steal signs without everyone who gets that information (players) knowing about it?
So they steal a sign, relay it to the player and the player knows whats coming. How do you only penalize the coach and GM?


Saying it was a โ€œplayer-drivenโ€ scheme and then not punishing any players definitely seems ridiculous. Iโ€™m fine with the punishments handed down so far, but not punishing players is silly.


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Re: Breaking Astros news [Re: Okie Poke] #13403383 01/14/20 01:40 AM
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lol at the ranger fans celebrating.

I hate to see Luhnow fired, Hinch was a good manager, but he can be replaced. Luhnow rebuilt the franchise.

In any case, its going to be sweet when the Astros go scorched earth and mop the floor with the rest of the league in the revenge season. 2020 WS champs- you heard it here first.


I'd rather be an honest loser than a cheating winner!


Spoken like a true loser. Every team is doing it, the astros are just the being made an example. I think there will be more coming in the next few months


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lol at the ranger fans celebrating.

I hate to see Luhnow fired, Hinch was a good manager, but he can be replaced. Luhnow rebuilt the franchise.

In any case, its going to be sweet when the Astros go scorched earth and mop the floor with the rest of the league in the revenge season. 2020 WS champs- you heard it here first.


I'd rather be an honest loser than a cheating winner!


Spoken like a true loser. Every team is doing it, the astros are just the being made an example. I think there will be more coming in the next few months



I believe you and clutch city are truly defining the word LOSER in more ways than one....kinda up close and personal.
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I agree with the way this was handled by MLB and Crane. Hinch obviously knew this was going on. He destroyed monitors on two different occasions, but failed to stop the activity. I have a hard time believing Luhnow did not know what was going on as well. From what I've read, he was given direct instructions from Crane to ensure no rule breaking activity was going on and obviously either lied about it to Crane or didn't want to know about it.
We have the best team in MLB so it made no sense to gain an unfair advantage by stealing signals. In the end it's a shame that the best GM/Mgr combo the Stros ever had lost their jobs and integrity, but it's the right call by Crane.
Tough week for H-Town sports for sure. I'm disappointed by the actions of management and the players involved, but will still support the team whole heartedly going forward.
Go Stros!!!

Re: Breaking Astros news [Re: RATZ] #13403614 01/14/20 03:48 AM
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the owner just fired both of them






You live and die by the choices you make! Hate to hear news like this about any sports team especially the Astros! taz


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