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Re: A few for the box
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12/12/19 08:10 PM
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That is some impressive work, effective colors and proportional ratio. Also reminds me I need to shop cameras soon. I agree with the #2 - #4 streamer hook being appropriate size. Too many conventional gear bass guys think they need to use 5/0 - 7/0 hooks for flies. We have to consider the casting weight, produce and incorporate action into the flies. It's the whole bigger baits, everything is bigger in Texas thing. Sometimes this is justified but on many occasions I have had 2# - 5# bass literally with lazer accuracy annihilate with extreme prejudice a #12 - #16 water boatman, which in real life the body is a mere 3/8" long. Back swimmers are a little larger. They are consistently in nearly every fresh stillwater body year round. This link is to the method I was thinking of on the worm. When I mentioned "cactus" this is the "Bohemian" chenille I was thinking of. You can see how a stinger hook could easily be incorporated to this pattern. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1KqwznJR-js
Most people double haul so they can throw their mistakes further - Bernard "Lefty" Kreh - R.I.P. Glass rod, click & pawl, ugly flies
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Re: A few for the box
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12/12/19 09:22 PM
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Yeh I can see the how a stinger could be put in that bug. I think in that furled chenille I make a piece of say 15 or 20lb test or so could be incorporated as well. The only time I go much bigger on hook size for fresh water (or salt for that matter) is on top water bugs that are made of stiffer materials in order to maintain a good hook gap. Its much the same reason though my favorite dry for trout was the stimulator but at the same time the tiemco 200r and similar hooks used for the pattern offers a very narrow hook gap and becomes my least favorite for all but the most aggressive of fish. I love the little Bett's poppers for small stream warm water fish of all types but find the hook gap woefully inadequate so will be looking for a different popper for next spring.
Like your mention of the water boatmen a very underated pattern for many species in both still and moving water. They are always around and offer a consistent food source.
As far as cameras I have pretty good point and shoot that offers a good degree of focus and has a macro setting. That being said I have retired it since moving here as I haven't been photographing any fly below #14. All the ones I have posted to this board have been done with my two year old iPhone SE.
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Re: A few for the box
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12/13/19 06:59 AM
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This is a rerun and test, I was educated a little on photos
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Re: A few for the box
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12/13/19 07:57 AM
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2nd test to confirm lesson. baitfish
Most people double haul so they can throw their mistakes further - Bernard "Lefty" Kreh - R.I.P. Glass rod, click & pawl, ugly flies
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Re: A few for the box
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12/13/19 02:28 PM
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Ok that looks pretty darn good and really makes that mouse look impressive. Man oh man whiskers and all. I often don't have patience for nuances like that; very impressive. Would have loved that thing on the Dream Stream in the late summer and fall. Browns up there would feed on mice on a full moon between September and the first real cold that came in.
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Re: A few for the box
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12/13/19 04:58 PM
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Late night tie. 5wt mouse. Cut into the collar on this one.
Most people double haul so they can throw their mistakes further - Bernard "Lefty" Kreh - R.I.P. Glass rod, click & pawl, ugly flies
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Re: A few for the box
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12/13/19 06:31 PM
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Since we are making a mess with hair. Pale diver
Most people double haul so they can throw their mistakes further - Bernard "Lefty" Kreh - R.I.P. Glass rod, click & pawl, ugly flies
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Re: A few for the box
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12/13/19 07:44 PM
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Frog Hair diver. Done with hair for now, Time to clean this mess and move on.
Most people double haul so they can throw their mistakes further - Bernard "Lefty" Kreh - R.I.P. Glass rod, click & pawl, ugly flies
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Re: A few for the box
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12/14/19 12:26 PM
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Those look dang good. Spinning deer hair hadn't been my thing till now. Gonna have to get used to it I guess for some bass if I want to have flies that look that.
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Re: A few for the box
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12/14/19 01:36 PM
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Thanks Bones. Deer hair is tricky for me, a lot of work, spin pack spin pack and trim, sometimes I don't get the look I'm wanting and have to redo it. After nearly cutting off the collar on the white shad and the little mouse above I was real careful not to do it to the frog hence the thick collar. There are some synthetic options that will work, but I'm a more traditional tyer that will veer off the rez once in a while.
Most people double haul so they can throw their mistakes further - Bernard "Lefty" Kreh - R.I.P. Glass rod, click & pawl, ugly flies
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Re: A few for the box
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12/14/19 03:56 PM
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I think it would be cool to catch a big ol brown trout on a mouse pattern. Brown trout, however, are scarce around my neck of the woods. I bet a largemouth bass could be enticed to eat that mouse.
That spun, packed and trimmed deer hair looks good. I used to be intimidated by even the idea of spinning deer hair, but just dove on in and tried it, only because someone bought me a few dahlberg divers and the bass loved them. I generally hate fishing store bought ties so I had to figure out My divers and borski sliders don’t even look all that great, messy and inconsistent as they are, but the fish don’t require perfection.
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Re: A few for the box
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12/14/19 05:23 PM
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If you read up on spinning hair you will find a few tricks / techniques that will make it easier to understand. I had to learn for myself long ago by trial and frustration.. It's not hard and the tricks will fade the fear. Largemouth will eat mice. There are easier mouse patterns like morrish mouse / rat or splinter mouse if your interested. Less material and mess.
Last edited by MJM; 12/14/19 10:27 PM.
Most people double haul so they can throw their mistakes further - Bernard "Lefty" Kreh - R.I.P. Glass rod, click & pawl, ugly flies
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Re: A few for the box
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12/15/19 01:27 PM
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Yep I have done a few of the easier ones. They now reside with my dad back in Virginia who fishes more bass. Used to be a great smallmouth fishery there are on the rivers where I grew up on the Rappahannock and Rapidan rivers. The human population exploded and now its all gone even on the Shenandoah. I used foam mouse bodies and carved out a head of other foam. Not much of a true "fly" per se but effective. Since most of mine were fished at night they were also sharpied to be solid black. MJM yours however look like they belong in a trap. I have so many patterns that I would like to do that spinning will probably have to wait for another day. I have to get some baitfish done between shad and mullet.
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Re: A few for the box
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12/15/19 06:30 PM
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Trailer leech. Tied on trolling wire with one hook at rear.
Most people double haul so they can throw their mistakes further - Bernard "Lefty" Kreh - R.I.P. Glass rod, click & pawl, ugly flies
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Re: A few for the box
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12/16/19 12:52 PM
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Looks good. A little bunny and a little guinea hackle? Used those to great effect in still water situations for trout and on shallow walleye.
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