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Re: Where will the next Texas record come from? [Re: LakeForkGroupie] #13361522 12/04/19 10:26 PM
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Originally Posted by LakeForkGroupie
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Could easily come from a “sleeper lake”. While many are ancient history look at the huge bass that showed up on lakes not necessarily know as a state record contender. Possum Kingdom, Pinkston, Austin, Mill Creek, Sam Rayburn, Conroe..... while “smaller bass” remember Monticello and Welsh each had the state record at one time....in the 80’s. John Alexander broke the state record twice in a couple weeks on private Lake Echo. Have to agree though that Caddo has as good a chance as any lake....including Fork. It has turned out some giants in a more recent history. While not that big of a reservoir there are places on Caddo that big fish can remain out of touch from the fishing population for long periods of time. Here’s the Texas Top 50 bass list: https://tpwd.texas.gov/fishboat/fish/programs/fishrecords/freshwater/top50_largemouth.phtml


I wouldn't call Sam Rayburn or Conroe a sleeper lake.

Also I think Monticello might have a great chance. No access right now. Those fish might show out when ever they resolve the access issue.


I would have agreed with Monticello being a contender if they hadn't opened the gates between Monty & CS. Now Monty is full of sand bass. This will make it extremely difficult for any lake to overcome.



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Re: Where will the next Texas record come from? [Re: knotgood] #13361659 12/05/19 01:04 AM
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Originally Posted by knotgood
Nachoniche will be taken over by salvania in 3 years. I have never seen so much.


TPWD will probably start spraying it there too. Then there goes the hydrilla.

Re: Where will the next Texas record come from? [Re: nb_one] #13361975 12/05/19 01:49 PM
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Nachoniche will be taken over by salvania in 3 years. I have never seen so much.


TPWD will probably start spraying it there too. Then there goes the hydrilla.



They already sprayed there, it was obvious in April this year.

Re: Where will the next Texas record come from? [Re: jbw3] #13361990 12/05/19 02:07 PM
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Originally Posted by jbw3
There's no denying Fork was...and is special. With 30 of the top 50 coming from Fork. What is interesting is that many lakes during that period between around 1987 through 1993 produced lake records. Pinkston, Gibbons, Mill Creek, Rayburn, Amistad. Was it just a "perfect storm" throughout the state during this period? Fork still kicked out a 15.48 that made the list just last year. I can't help to believe that another true GIANT...possibly another record...is still swimming out there today.


Most of those giants lived offshore except during the spawn, and 99% of fisherman back in that day, myself included, weren't as good at fishing deeper areas. With the new electronics we have now, it's getting harder and harder for them to "hide" in those places. St. Clairs fish was caught deep (supposedly) while fishing for crappie. If I was a betting man I'd still give Fork better odds than most. So my picks in order would be:
1) Fork
2) Falcon
3) Rayburn

But you never know. Marine Creek has gotten some pretty special stockings. Henry was throwing out some giants a few years back. Genetics, food, cover, and lack of pressure = magic number! I hope it's ME!! banana


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Re: Where will the next Texas record come from? [Re: Shaun Russell] #13364055 12/07/19 08:16 AM
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If the timber has disappeared, the lake will have to have cover like hydrilla. Seems like that is rare nowadays.


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Re: Where will the next Texas record come from? [Re: Rog] #13364425 12/07/19 06:45 PM
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Originally Posted by Rog
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There's no denying Fork was...and is special. With 30 of the top 50 coming from Fork. What is interesting is that many lakes during that period between around 1987 through 1993 produced lake records. Pinkston, Gibbons, Mill Creek, Rayburn, Amistad. Was it just a "perfect storm" throughout the state during this period? Fork still kicked out a 15.48 that made the list just last year. I can't help to believe that another true GIANT...possibly another record...is still swimming out there today.


some of those fish secretly came from fork but was lied about.


Actually Senko I heard the opposite. Some of the teenagers from Fork were rumored to have come from other lakes close to Fork and brought over for various reasons. The change around 1993 was the run on killing out invasive grasses such as hydrilla by the state and spraying began along with aging lakes, increased pressure, and development around lakes like Fork.


that's what I meant to say, just worded it wrong. some small east tx lakes spit out some big teens decades ago and were protected.

Re: Where will the next Texas record come from? [Re: Shaun Russell] #13364559 12/07/19 09:49 PM
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Won't ever happen in Rayburn, way too much northern influence and pressure has taken its toll. You rarely see 10's anymore.

Re: Where will the next Texas record come from? [Re: senko9S] #13364639 12/07/19 11:35 PM
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Originally Posted by senko9S
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There's no denying Fork was...and is special. With 30 of the top 50 coming from Fork. What is interesting is that many lakes during that period between around 1987 through 1993 produced lake records. Pinkston, Gibbons, Mill Creek, Rayburn, Amistad. Was it just a "perfect storm" throughout the state during this period? Fork still kicked out a 15.48 that made the list just last year. I can't help to believe that another true GIANT...possibly another record...is still swimming out there today.


some of those fish secretly came from fork but was lied about.


Actually Senko I heard the opposite. Some of the teenagers from Fork were rumored to have come from other lakes close to Fork and brought over for various reasons. The change around 1993 was the run on killing out invasive grasses such as hydrilla by the state and spraying began along with aging lakes, increased pressure, and development around lakes like Fork.


that's what I meant to say, just worded it wrong. some small east tx lakes spit out some big teens decades ago and were protected.


I figured that's what you meant. I know of two fish on that Top 50 list that came from Mill Creek that say Fork.



Re: Where will the next Texas record come from? [Re: Shaun Russell] #13364654 12/07/19 11:54 PM
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I had one alive for years in the smaller aquarium. Plaque and all "Lake Fork"

Re: Where will the next Texas record come from? [Re: senko9S] #13364668 12/08/19 12:11 AM
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Originally Posted by senko9S
I had one alive for years in the smaller aquarium. Plaque and all "Lake Fork"



Got any pics? I bet if fed right you could grow a pretty fat bass in an aquarium.

I also think White Rock is a real sleeper in this debate.

Re: Where will the next Texas record come from? [Re: Shaun Russell] #13364675 12/08/19 12:18 AM
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dan, its a myth you can just feed a bass to achieve size. the chances of a bass weighing more than 15 pounds could possibly be compared to a human over 7ft tall. its a rarity. ive got pics in a paper photo album and some newspaper clippings. I did manage the gvine record bass to achieve close to record size but she was a freak of nature. RIP Big Momma.

Re: Where will the next Texas record come from? [Re: senko9S] #13364748 12/08/19 01:14 AM
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Originally Posted by senko9S
dan, its a myth you can just feed a bass to achieve size. the chances of a bass weighing more than 15 pounds could possibly be compared to a human over 7ft tall. its a rarity. ive got pics in a paper photo album and some newspaper clippings. I did manage the gvine record bass to achieve close to record size but she was a freak of nature. RIP Big Momma.


Agreed David.

A 15 is a FREAK of nature anywhere even on a highly managed private lake like CB.



Re: Where will the next Texas record come from? [Re: Shaun Russell] #13371660 12/13/19 08:05 PM
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I’ve wondered why Texoma hasn’t turned out a monster. I mean, I’ve seen some toads but nothing really monster status. Perhaps it’s because it so far north...



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