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Re: question for Tesla haters
[Re: BassFever]
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12/11/19 06:13 PM
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Duck_Hunter
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I'm waiting for the electric trucks to hit the market. I really like the looks and well thought out layout of the Rivian. The highest range they offer is over 400 miles. I've only driven over that distance a handful of times in my life and I'm 57. My BIGGEST problem is I live in an apartment and charging might be an issue. But hopefully by the time they are on the market, apartments will have added charging stations.
I live within 4 miles of work. It takes me maybe 5 minutes of drive time. I think running a gas engine that little over and over isn't good for it. But what do I know..lol My question about the electric trucks is, how much of that range will be eaten up when towing or loaded down? How about when going off road through mud?
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Re: question for Tesla haters
[Re: BassFever]
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12/11/19 06:19 PM
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Stump jumper
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I'm waiting for the electric trucks to hit the market. I really like the looks and well thought out layout of the Rivian. The highest range they offer is over 400 miles. I've only driven over that distance a handful of times in my life and I'm 57. My BIGGEST problem is I live in an apartment and charging might be an issue. But hopefully by the time they are on the market, apartments will have added charging stations.
I live within 4 miles of work. It takes me maybe 5 minutes of drive time. I think running a gas engine that little over and over isn't good for it. But what do I know..lol Other than tires crunching gravel they would be good deer hunting vehicles. In east Tx you would not have the gravel noise. I think the hydrogen cell might be a better alternative but it sure has been slow to develop.
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Re: question for Tesla haters
[Re: J.P. Greeson]
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12/11/19 06:51 PM
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J.P. Greeson
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Everyone keeps talking about them as a city commute vehicle, but even where we live, a 300 mile range is plenty. It's about 60 miles round-trip to Walmart and Home Depot and about 90 miles round-trip to Sam's. As a road trip vehicle, I think we are 3 years from that happening. We've gone from 200 mile ranges to 500 mile ranges in just a few years. 1000-1200 isn't that far off. We'll soon see how they do towing boats as a number of electric trucks will be hitting the market in the next few years.
The solution to any problem - work, love, money, whatever - is to go fishing, and the worse the problem, the longer the trip should be. --John Gierach
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Re: question for Tesla haters
[Re: Stump jumper]
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12/11/19 06:54 PM
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mstring
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Only hybrid I have ever ridden in was a Prius and I could not stand not hearing an engine running. I heard the feds were talking about requiring some sort of noise maker so pedestrians can hear them. Some are already doing that. They will scare the you know what out of you coming up behind you in a parking lot or garage.
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Re: question for Tesla haters
[Re: J.P. Greeson]
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12/11/19 07:31 PM
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Urban Fisher
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I would love to have one!!! As to someone mentioning cost, heck the sedans are priced pretty much with other similar sedans. And the new truck is actually cheap when compared to other trucks (and doesn't it go from 0-60 in a hair over 2 or 3 seconds? Lets see an F-250 do that!). I totally think this is the way of the future...again as mentioned, electric is a pretty simple build and low maintenance. You average gas car has what like 500,000 moving parts! And of course one small sensor or a simple belt goes out and the whole thing won't run. And yes, electricity is currently mostly derived from fossil fuels. But if fossil fuels were depleted (which will eventually happen) do you think that would be the end to our electrical usage? Heck no!! Gas cars would be worthless, but there are always other ways to generate electricity. And Elon got me with the below idea. He must have had me in mind! I converted my last three vehicles into weekend campers. I even installed a window AC unit in my camper truck. But with an electric vehicle you don't even need to mess with an AC unit or generator. You could just run the AC of the vehicle. Especially if the camp site has electric hookups!! I hope his next big release will be an electric van!! Damit, I can't get the pic to post here. But just click on the link... https://electrek.co/wp-content/uplo...74434915159.jpg?quality=82&strip=all
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Re: question for Tesla haters
[Re: PowerLizard]
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12/11/19 08:14 PM
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It is worth looking at for a family second vehicle because they have fewer moving parts. If you own it for 10 years, the maintenance would be a lot lower: No fuel pump to fail. No fuel filter to clog. No fuel injectors to clog. No ignition coil to fail. No spark plugs to replace. No motor oil to replace. No oil filter to replace. No oil pump to replace. No piston rings to wear out. No pistons, connecting arms, cam shaft bearings. No valves, valve guides or valve springs. No air filter to replace. No exhaust manifold gasket to leak. No catalytic convertor to be stolen. No muffler to replace. No coolant to replace. No water pump to replace. No thermostat to replace. No leaking radiator to replace. No coolant hoses to replace. No alternator to replace.
For maintaining an electric car, all I can think of is tires and brakes. Over time the battery won't hold as much charge but there are after market companies who test and replace battery cells for hybrid Prius so doing this for Tesla can't be far off if it doesn't exist already. Well hell....Give me 2.
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Re: question for Tesla haters
[Re: Trickster]
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12/11/19 08:25 PM
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Derek ๐
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It is worth looking at for a family second vehicle because they have fewer moving parts. If you own it for 10 years, the maintenance would be a lot lower: No fuel pump to fail. No fuel filter to clog. No fuel injectors to clog. No ignition coil to fail. No spark plugs to replace. No motor oil to replace. No oil filter to replace. No oil pump to replace. No piston rings to wear out. No pistons, connecting arms, cam shaft bearings. No valves, valve guides or valve springs. No air filter to replace. No exhaust manifold gasket to leak. No catalytic convertor to be stolen. No muffler to replace. No coolant to replace. No water pump to replace. No thermostat to replace. No leaking radiator to replace. No coolant hoses to replace. No alternator to replace.
For maintaining an electric car, all I can think of is tires and brakes. Over time the battery won't hold as much charge but there are after market companies who test and replace battery cells for hybrid Prius so doing this for Tesla can't be far off if it doesn't exist already. Well hell....Give me 2.
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Re: question for Tesla haters
[Re: PowerLizard]
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12/12/19 12:19 AM
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silvers
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It is worth looking at for a family second vehicle because they have fewer moving parts. If you own it for 10 years, the maintenance would be a lot lower: No fuel pump to fail. No fuel filter to clog. No fuel injectors to clog. No ignition coil to fail. No spark plugs to replace. No motor oil to replace. No oil filter to replace. No oil pump to replace. No piston rings to wear out. No pistons, connecting arms, cam shaft bearings. No valves, valve guides or valve springs. No air filter to replace. No exhaust manifold gasket to leak. No catalytic convertor to be stolen. No muffler to replace. No coolant to replace. No water pump to replace. No thermostat to replace. No leaking radiator to replace. No coolant hoses to replace. No alternator to replace.
For maintaining an electric car, all I can think of is tires and brakes. Over time the battery won't hold as much charge but there are after market companies who test and replace battery cells for hybrid Prius so doing this for Tesla can't be far off if it doesn't exist already. I did not replace any of the above on my toyota
call it what you will...he is not definitely not anywhere near the top of the list for QB's that I would choose needing a FG or touchdown drive late in the game.
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Re: question for Tesla haters
[Re: J.P. Greeson]
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12/12/19 12:22 AM
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silvers
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And I donโt hate Tesla I know itโs coming for all of us
call it what you will...he is not definitely not anywhere near the top of the list for QB's that I would choose needing a FG or touchdown drive late in the game.
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Re: question for Tesla haters
[Re: J.P. Greeson]
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12/12/19 12:26 AM
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HasBen
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Not a hater, just not an early adopter. Much like computers, phones, and televisions, the technology and price is changing by the day. I will keep interested and keep abreast of the advancements, but I am not ready to pull the pin on owning one. I watched a tv show on an attempted trip across country in a Tesla. The planning, delays, and added time was interesting and not something I am ready for. I hope early adopters keep buying them so they keep making improvements on the vehicles.
"Nothing spoils a good story like the arrival of an eyewitness."-Mark Twain
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Re: question for Tesla haters
[Re: silvers]
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12/12/19 01:22 AM
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H.Town_paddler
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It is worth looking at for a family second vehicle because they have fewer moving parts. If you own it for 10 years, the maintenance would be a lot lower: No fuel pump to fail. No fuel filter to clog. No fuel injectors to clog. No ignition coil to fail. No spark plugs to replace. No motor oil to replace. No oil filter to replace. No oil pump to replace. No piston rings to wear out. No pistons, connecting arms, cam shaft bearings. No valves, valve guides or valve springs. No air filter to replace. No exhaust manifold gasket to leak. No catalytic convertor to be stolen. No muffler to replace. No coolant to replace. No water pump to replace. No thermostat to replace. No leaking radiator to replace. No coolant hoses to replace. No alternator to replace.
For maintaining an electric car, all I can think of is tires and brakes. Over time the battery won't hold as much charge but there are after market companies who test and replace battery cells for hybrid Prius so doing this for Tesla can't be far off if it doesn't exist already. I did not replace any of the above on my toyota You didnโt replace the oil, oil filter, or air filter?
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Re: question for Tesla haters
[Re: H.Town_paddler]
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12/12/19 01:29 AM
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Bee'z
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It is worth looking at for a family second vehicle because they have fewer moving parts. If you own it for 10 years, the maintenance would be a lot lower: No fuel pump to fail. No fuel filter to clog. No fuel injectors to clog. No ignition coil to fail. No spark plugs to replace. No motor oil to replace. No oil filter to replace. No oil pump to replace. No piston rings to wear out. No pistons, connecting arms, cam shaft bearings. No valves, valve guides or valve springs. No air filter to replace. No exhaust manifold gasket to leak. No catalytic convertor to be stolen. No muffler to replace. No coolant to replace. No water pump to replace. No thermostat to replace. No leaking radiator to replace. No coolant hoses to replace. No alternator to replace.
For maintaining an electric car, all I can think of is tires and brakes. Over time the battery won't hold as much charge but there are after market companies who test and replace battery cells for hybrid Prius so doing this for Tesla can't be far off if it doesn't exist already. I did not replace any of the above on my toyota You didnโt replace the oil, oil filter, or air filter? The great awakening comes when it is time to replace those batteries.
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Re: question for Tesla haters
[Re: a777pilot]
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12/12/19 03:29 AM
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MARKIT
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p.s., Wind and solar are not, repeat, not, carbon saving sources of energy. Not true at all the wind blows and sun shines almost every day we are getting better at capturing it every day
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Re: question for Tesla haters
[Re: J.P. Greeson]
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12/12/19 03:50 AM
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Derek ๐
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Would be nice if they would offer a dividend..
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Re: question for Tesla haters
[Re: J.P. Greeson]
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12/12/19 04:07 AM
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Mark C
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So when I get mine, should i go with headers and dual exhaust or would a cat back set-up be ok?
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