You're clearly not going to disclose who you are and what your agenda is, as you've been asked repeatedly. You've also had almost every person who's replied to you acknowledge that what you're "reporting" here since you've joined isn't really breaking news to any of us.

So tell us Seminole Wind, how is this all exactly going to do down? Hit us with your prognostications and we'll all note them and you can come back here at some point and proclaim yourself Chief...

I wish I could get fish to bite as readily as "Big O' has gotten all of you to bite....




Spring can not come too soon...

are you related to grout-scout?

Are you still trying to wave around some unrelated and irrelevant shiny object to distract everyone, Mark? Come on, you surely have access to the information about who has announced they are committing to fishing the FLW Pro tour in 2020. Why can’t you, or anyone for that matter inject some positive news from any prominent angler?

What do you think is being accomplished by waving around the shiny objects to distract people from what’s being openly and regularly reported?

beartrap - hows the search going for something that supports your authoritative claim FLW was saved from bankruptcy?

I am sure there are others on here that would love to see something that substantiates that your claim was something based on fact and with solid foundation. It would allow them to get rid of all the shiny objects they are waving around.

Come on now, surely you had some basis for making that claim, otherwise you would not have made it, right?

I just cant believe there is someone that cares as much about this as Mark Jones, I have been ignoring him and his clear agenda since I read his first post long ago, but this Big O guy seems to really enjoy banter with Mark.

I do wish Big O would say who he is if hes just a normal Joe maybe hes the guy I need to know!?

I would really like to take a trip to the Big O in Florida but its a bit over whelming to know where to start, fishermen on the Florida forums are pretty tight lipped. When I call the rv parks down there they act like they are going to be full for sure and try and pressure me into a deposit etc. Its not nearly as simple seeming as a trip to Lake Falcon in Jan Feb Mar. Falcon only has 3 ramps its easy to decide where to go.

Oh no sir, he’s way too smart to be related to someone in my family.


But interestingly enough, did Boyd give you your allowance this week for being a good son Fletcher?

Lol and here I was thinking I could count on you for support...

I have a question for big o/seminole. Over the last 20yrs, how many BASS guys announced they were staying with BASS before the start of each season. How many FLW guys announced they were staying with FLW. I would only expect an announcement if moving leagues. So why would someone who was with FLW announce they are staying.

Why is everyone leaving flw? Please in the shortest answer possible..

Because a lot of them got messed over when they cancelled the FLW Cup. That was minimum $10K that they qualified for legitimately and got pulled out from under them. Some have other reasons, but the other side is they don't have a desire to be put in a second tier feeder system for a series they don't care to fish. These guys were pros before, and now are considered minor league.

It would be like promising you a bonus at your job of $10k for hitting goals. Then the company get's bought out and says too bad so sad, and also demotes you. You gonna stick around for that?

Everyone isn't leaving, only a few are...

Short as it gets

Well, I thought it was obvious, but for those such as yourself who don’t seem to see the obvious, I will explain.

1.) Although none of it has been publicly substantiated, It’s been repeatedly cited with authoritative command by those who expect to be given credibility, that FLW LLC was insolvent, on the verge of filing for bankruptcy, and ceased to exist upon closing of the rescue buyout from MLF. FLW LLC of old does not exist anymore, so no one is “staying” with a now defunct and closed entity. All contracts, commitments, and obligations to anglers whom were part of any FLW LLC tournaments became null and void and that’s the reason why MLF was not responsible to, or expected to honor outstanding commitments to anglers whom fished under the old FLW LLC tournament structure and award system. That’s if what’s being reported and recited by many can be believed.

2.) What remains of that now (Purportedly) defunct entity of FLW LLC is only assets, and those assets are going to be resurrected and restructured into something different than what it once was known as; reportedly It’s now only a qualifying tournament league for BPT, not an independent Pro league as before. That’s if what’s being reported and recited by many can be believed.

3.) Under the above circumstances, anyone who is signing up to fish the MLFLW (yet unnamed?) league is signing up, and committing to fish in a newly formed circuit/league with different rules, etc... That’s if what’s being reported and recited by many can be believed.

Again, if what has been recited and repeated by many, often times with authoritative command when in defense of MLF, is to be believed, then any angler would naturally be thought of in a state of flux until they publicly announce they are going in one direction or another. I would also surmise that even the sponsors of those unannounced anglers would be interested in what they planned to do so they can also make informed decisions for 2020 and their brands exposure.

Does that clarify what I was thinking all along was the obvious?

I guess this is what happens when you get paid individuals on each side. I think there's something wrong with me for enjoying the back and forth.

The amount of absolute [censored] being thrown around by both "sides" of this argument is unbelievable.