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Re: MLF Hearing Fans but not Listening
[Re: sprigsss]
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12/05/19 04:27 PM
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russb
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Unfortunately I kind of think that those of us on here are the vocal minority. How many of the MLF and BPT viewers on the Outdoor and Discovery channels really followed tournament fishing before. I followed BASS when I was younger but gradually stopped following, until MLF came around. It caused me to get back into following the tournament scene. But I had a history and a knowledge of tournament angling before, so I really got back into following BASS since that's what I knew. Now how many viewers only knew MFL, having no knowledge about all the success these guys had on previous tours, especially the guys from FLW. I feel that there model is less about converting those of us who followed the trails and more about gaining new anglers. This new "heavy sack" tourney or whatever they end up calling it from what I can tell is still going to be an every fish counts tourney. It just uses the old 5 fish format to decide who gets in, and even then its still not a true 5 fish format. It seems more to me that it's more of an attempt to shutup the minority that will never get behind the new leauge. As long as they're drawing eyes in their direction I think they'll find the sponsors, maybe it'll we be less of the industry sponsors, but they'll find them. As long as the guys competing are happy with where they're at and have the ability to fish where they want, we should all be happy.
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Re: MLF Hearing Fans but not Listening
[Re: russb]
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12/05/19 05:20 PM
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Big O Florida
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Unfortunately I kind of think that those of us on here are the vocal minority. How many of the MLF and BPT viewers on the Outdoor and Discovery channels really followed tournament fishing before. I followed BASS when I was younger but gradually stopped following, until MLF came around. It caused me to get back into following the tournament scene. But I had a history and a knowledge of tournament angling before, so I really got back into following BASS since that's what I knew. Now how many viewers only knew MFL, having no knowledge about all the success these guys had on previous tours, especially the guys from FLW. I feel that there model is less about converting those of us who followed the trails and more about gaining new anglers. This new "heavy sack" tourney or whatever they end up calling it from what I can tell is still going to be an every fish counts tourney. It just uses the old 5 fish format to decide who gets in, and even then its still not a true 5 fish format. It seems more to me that it's more of an attempt to shutup the minority that will never get behind the new leauge. As long as they're drawing eyes in their direction I think they'll find the sponsors, maybe it'll we be less of the industry sponsors, but they'll find them. As long as the guys competing are happy with where they're at and have the ability to fish where they want, we should all be happy. You would be surprised how a vocal minority can initiate change within an organization that’s not being viewed as having good moral and ethical character. For every one person that contacts a sponsor and voices a negative opinion about who they are putting their brand behind, these sponsors know there are 100’s more that feel the same way that don’t or won’t take the time to reach out to them and will just speak with their $$$. History is full of examples of companies that spend advertising dollars reacting to consumer complaints about who they are advertising with. From what I have heard through grapevine MLF is already experiencing this and it’s only going to get worse because they haven’t been proven as being sustainable. Bad PR is the last thing MLF or its sponsors need.
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Re: MLF Hearing Fans but not Listening
[Re: sprigsss]
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12/05/19 07:07 PM
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Fishing on a string
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So the kid that won the living the dream package is stuck out because MLF is refusing to honor their side. TBF is honoring their side. So this is another good move by the group that’s trying to “grow” the sport? His facebook page is Preston Craig and he’s definitely steaming about this along with the college anglers that got stuck out because of the buy out. So the question is do the sponsors really want this out there that they are backing a professional program that is turning their backs on those who have accomplished goals and now don’t get to realize their dream. I bet that will change some algorithms ya think?
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Re: MLF Hearing Fans but not Listening
[Re: 200ZX]
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12/05/19 07:45 PM
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ETXfisher91
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What is the Jim and Luke Dunkin thing about. Me not know. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sHgxqYcckRMFast forward to about the 12:00 minute mark... He doesn't get to the jim and luke dispute until 15:30 the first 12:00 minutes he talks about his mother passing.
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Re: MLF Hearing Fans but not Listening
[Re: Fishing on a string]
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12/05/19 08:08 PM
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Chris_K
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That’s awful. Another strike agains the company’s ownership.
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Re: MLF Hearing Fans but not Listening
[Re: ETXfisher91]
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12/05/19 08:58 PM
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200ZX
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What is the Jim and Luke Dunkin thing about. Me not know. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sHgxqYcckRMFast forward to about the 12:00 minute mark... He doesn't get to the jim and luke dispute until 15:30 the first 12:00 minutes he talks about his mother passing. Thank you sir I will check it out.
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Re: MLF Hearing Fans but not Listening
[Re: sprigsss]
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12/05/19 09:19 PM
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SC 210
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Wow that's just a bully trying to get his way, what a jerk.
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Re: MLF Hearing Fans but not Listening
[Re: sprigsss]
#13362375
12/05/19 09:50 PM
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ETXfisher91
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it's ridiculous... I will never give them a view again. Strictly Bass for this guy!
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Re: MLF Hearing Fans but not Listening
[Re: russb]
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12/05/19 10:41 PM
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JacksonBean
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Unfortunately I kind of think that those of us on here are the vocal minority. How many of the MLF and BPT viewers on the Outdoor and Discovery channels really followed tournament fishing before. I followed BASS when I was younger but gradually stopped following, until MLF came around. It caused me to get back into following the tournament scene. But I had a history and a knowledge of tournament angling before, so I really got back into following BASS since that's what I knew. Now how many viewers only knew MFL, having no knowledge about all the success these guys had on previous tours, especially the guys from FLW. I feel that there model is less about converting those of us who followed the trails and more about gaining new anglers. This new "heavy sack" tourney or whatever they end up calling it from what I can tell is still going to be an every fish counts tourney. It just uses the old 5 fish format to decide who gets in, and even then its still not a true 5 fish format. It seems more to me that it's more of an attempt to shutup the minority that will never get behind the new leauge. As long as they're drawing eyes in their direction I think they'll find the sponsors, maybe it'll we be less of the industry sponsors, but they'll find them. As long as the guys competing are happy with where they're at and have the ability to fish where they want, we should all be happy. And someone gets it! Cheers Russb
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Re: MLF Hearing Fans but not Listening
[Re: sprigsss]
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12/06/19 02:27 AM
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the skipper
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I think we can all figure out that the change of heart was from all the bad PR. Either way, it's good they stepped up
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Re: MLF Hearing Fans but not Listening
[Re: Big O Florida]
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12/06/19 03:24 AM
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Jeff From Iowa
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Yes it was likely the bad publicity... the announcement is dated tomorrow. I contacted my club and then contacted Tbf about us not renewing our memberships due on Dec 15th if they are not going to have similar benefits to us as last year. Im sure were not the only ones.
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Re: MLF Hearing Fans but not Listening
[Re: sprigsss]
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12/06/19 03:45 AM
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champRD
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Is it just me or is it just wrong that they have to be pressured to do the right thing ? Man what a bunch of brain dead rich business man. Take care of all the costa angler's that payed there dues also! Said my peace.
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Re: MLF Hearing Fans but not Listening
[Re: champRD]
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12/06/19 04:27 AM
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Big O Florida
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Is it just me or is it just wrong that they have to be pressured to do the right thing ? Man what a bunch of brain dead rich business man. Take care of all the costa angler's that payed there dues also! Said my peace. No, it’s not just you... anyone paying attention sees the same thing. Including the sponsors and the anglers that were disillusioned enough to leave where they were to make a 3 year commitment to group whom started a business based on a vendetta agenda. There is an old saying, the fish rots from the head down, and the problems at MLF start at the very top with the majority owner and minority shareholders. All the underlings, including the shills they have distributed throughout the various social media platforms follow the examples of and display the same dishonesty that’s being set at the top. This venture, irrespective of how much money is behind it at the stakeholder level, is going to crash and burn because of the lack of moral character and integrity being openly displayed. Sponsors and their consumers are already starting to see it!
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Re: MLF Hearing Fans but not Listening
[Re: sprigsss]
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12/06/19 12:54 PM
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grout-scout
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And Mark Jones thought I talked badly about it. Poor Duckett & Klein.
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