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Why no one should ever buy a Ford product
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12/05/19 06:18 PM
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I just read about the billions of dollars that Ford is losing on the cover up or attempted cover up of the DPS6 tranny's. Ford engineers were reported to be sick to their stomachs when told by the upper brass that they were going to use these tranny's in their cars. Ford knew about the problems long before the cars wen in to production. Ford engineers were warning friends and relative not to buy a car with the DPS6. One engineer described the experience of driving one in a email to colleagues as "nasty launch judder". Granted we are not talking trucks here but the fact that Ford would pull this shennagins at all should scare everyone away.
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Re: Why no one should ever buy a Ford product
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12/05/19 08:47 PM
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What year and make of vehicles did they put it in?
Got a 14 escape with a 6 speed in it im not wild about. Changed trans fluid on it just before warranty was out, followed ford service instructions step by step, trans acted weird for a little, then was fine for few weeks then acted up again. It was under warranty, they fixed some sensor, but the trans has never been the same since. It still runs, but the 2-3 shift is F-ed.
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Re: Why no one should ever buy a Ford product
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12/05/19 08:59 PM
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He was referring to the DPS6 dual-clutch "PowerShift" transmission used in 2 million Focus and Fiesta cars sold this decade that is the subject of massive litigation and a federal criminal fraud probe.
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Re: Why no one should ever buy a Ford product
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12/05/19 09:25 PM
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The problems here are Ford knew the tranny's were bad a couple of years before they used them and they created a culture of fear for anyone that spoke up. I also had an Escape. Don't remember the year but the transmission maintenance was a walk in the park. Tundra would be too if it only had a dipstick.
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Re: Why no one should ever buy a Ford product
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12/05/19 10:32 PM
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The escape doesn't have a dipstick now either, stupid move if you ask me. Hey you could always be like ram and say the trans fluid is lifetime fluid, but if you contact the manufacturer of the transmission they say 75k mile service.
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Re: Why no one should ever buy a Ford product
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12/06/19 03:51 AM
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Not surprised at all. Some good stuff about capitalism...some not so good
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Re: Why no one should ever buy a Ford product
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12/06/19 03:31 PM
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The escape doesn't have a dipstick
It has one that bought it.
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Re: Why no one should ever buy a Ford product
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12/06/19 03:44 PM
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The escape doesn't have a dipstick
It has one that bought it. LOL all in good fun im sure. I really like the car for what it is. It has been very little trouble, this is the only issue we have had out of it and the dealer was very accommodating. Other than that its got 110,000 trouble free low cost miles on it. For what we paid for it we have gotten our moneys worth and its got a lot of life yet. We almost bought a rav4 instead, but the escape comparably equipped was $7,000 less and I shopped them both pretty hard... you know, im a cheap skate!
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Re: Why no one should ever buy a Ford product
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12/06/19 06:18 PM
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The escape doesn't have a dipstick now Most new vehicles don't
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Re: Why no one should ever buy a Ford product
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12/06/19 06:44 PM
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The escape doesn't have a dipstick
It has one that bought it. LOL all in good fun im sure. I really like the car for what it is. It has been very little trouble, this is the only issue we have had out of it and the dealer was very accommodating. Other than that its got 110,000 trouble free low cost miles on it. For what we paid for it we have gotten our moneys worth and its got a lot of life yet. We almost bought a rav4 instead, but the escape comparably equipped was $7,000 less and I shopped them both pretty hard... you know, im a cheap skate! All in failed humor. You know I'm a Ford guy.
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Re: Why no one should ever buy a Ford product
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12/08/19 03:12 AM
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Lord have mercy, I’ve never seen someone cry about a product so much, just be because they had a lemon once. I guess I need to cry about my crankshaft snapping on my GM truck, just a few miles out of warranty, on here all the time.
Didn’t GM get caught in a sticky situation a year or so back, something where the CEO knew they were lying and it was proven.
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Re: Why no one should ever buy a Ford product
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12/08/19 05:11 PM
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Lord have mercy, I’ve never seen someone cry about a product so much, just be because they had a lemon once. I guess I need to cry about my crankshaft snapping on my GM truck, just a few miles out of warranty, on here all the time.
Didn’t GM get caught in a sticky situation a year or so back, something where the CEO knew they were lying and it was proven.
Exactly
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Re: Why no one should ever buy a Ford product
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12/09/19 01:44 AM
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Lord have mercy, I’ve never seen someone cry about a product so much, just be because they had a lemon once. I guess I need to cry about my crankshaft snapping on my GM truck, just a few miles out of warranty, on here all the time.
Didn’t GM get caught in a sticky situation a year or so back, something where the CEO knew they were lying and it was proven.
I don't call shoddy engineering a lemon and that is what is was from the engine, to the roof design to the front end components
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Re: Why no one should ever buy a Ford product
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12/09/19 03:54 AM
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Lord have mercy, I’ve never seen someone cry about a product so much, just be because they had a lemon once. I guess I need to cry about my crankshaft snapping on my GM truck, just a few miles out of warranty, on here all the time.
Didn’t GM get caught in a sticky situation a year or so back, something where the CEO knew they were lying and it was proven.
I don't call shoddy engineering a lemon and that is what is was from the engine, to the roof design to the front end components And the sticky pedal on the ‘yota’s was what? Finely tuned engineering??? When you buy the cheapest most basic economical vehicle made, you can’t expect it to have the best of everything. Exactly how many bad post do you see here about bad ecoboost motors? Now how many positive reviews do you read? I’m not sure why you can’t just admit that all brands will have issues at some point. Here, maybe I should start a thread why we shouldn’t buy Toyota trucks. https://www.google.com/search?q=toy...;oe=UTF-8&hl=en-us&client=safari
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