Lol, I’m not throwing my weight around. I’m answering comments and trying to do so with facts. I’ve provided plenty of insight here. I can’t provide their internal numbers. Surely you understand that.

I would think if everything was so great they would want to show everyone how well things were going instead of someone (whom I still never heard of) getting on a forum and saying "Well I am such and such and I have seen the numbers and I know first hand this and that". That isn't proof. That provides no more validity than me saying "My name is Josh and I got a hat signed by Bill Dance one time and I know a guy who knows a guy who talked with a pro who said that BPT is going under". I see the comments on here, Facebook, and Instagram and I am not seeing too many in favor of's. But hey, I am sure BPT doesn't cherry pick their numbers to provide "ratings". Swindle and Palanuik leaving spoke volumes to me.

I’m clearly not at liberty to share their internal numbers here but they’re very transparent with their sponsors and their partners when they provide analytics, insights and TV viewership numbers.

Again, you really have to be careful when you look at commenters versus consumers who just watch and enjoy. The naysayers don’t scale. The strongest resistance that you’re seeing to the format are hard core five fish tournament anglers and I certainly agree that the five fish market segment is important, it’s just not the majority. It only feels that way to those of us who are involved in the industry, passionate fans and forum members.

Here’s just a small example. There’s been numerous people complaining about Discovery and them airing there. People have been very vocal. However the week to week ratings numbers continue to climb. So there’s a group saying they’re not watching and yet there’s a much larger group who continues to watch. As soon as I type this someone is going to come on here and say that it’s “housewives” and while that might get them a chuckle or two from the peanut gallery it’s simply not backed by data.

So, as a business, you have to be very careful with market research and feedback because it’s laced with bias, opinion and qualitative pitfalls. You have to keep your head, stay on strategy and look at quantitative data as your North Star. Not comments on the TFF. If that’s your North Star you are in big trouble.

This has been a time of radical change and I understand that is impacting a lot of this as well. It will settle down and come together. Applying patience here is going to be paramount.

I’m clearly not at liberty to share their internal numbers here but they’re very transparent with their sponsors and their partners when they provide analytics, insights and TV viewership numbers.

Again, you really have to be careful when you look at commenters versus consumers who just watch and enjoy. The naysayers don’t scale. The strongest resistance that you’re seeing to the format are hard core five fish tournament anglers and I certainly agree that the five fish market segment is important, it’s just not the majority. It only feels that way to those of us who are involved in the industry, passionate fans and forum members.

Here’s just a small example. There’s been numerous people complaining about Discovery and them airing there. People have been very vocal. However the week to week ratings numbers continue to climb. So there’s a group saying they’re not watching and yet there’s a much larger group who continues to watch. As soon as I type this someone is going to come on here and say that it’s “housewives” and while that might get them a chuckle or two from the peanut gallery it’s simply not backed by data.

So, as a business, you have to be very careful with market research and feedback because it’s laced with bias, opinion and qualitative pitfalls. You have to keep your head, stay on strategy and look at quantitative data as your North Star. Not comments on the TFF. If that’s your North Star you are in big trouble.

This has been a time of radical change and I understand that is impacting a lot of this as well. It will settle down and come together. Applying patience here is going to be paramount.

My question is if the majority likes the dink fest then why are they changing their biggest tournament? So far they have acknowledged every issue that has come across the internet forums such as the live well bashing and stuff. Now they are trying to tackle the little fish mentality. That doesnt exactly say that they believe the majority likes what they are doing. I understand that things will change but if all was good then why such drastic measures to make changes, obvious fluff pieces to address the stigma and so on? That's not a bash. I see them surviving in some fashion and I knew from day one there would be lots of changes. Just simply my opinion

I would think if everything was so great they would want to show everyone how well things were going instead of someone (whom I still never heard of) getting on a forum and saying "Well I am such and such and I have seen the numbers and I know first hand this and that". That isn't proof. That provides no more validity than me saying "My name is Josh and I got a hat signed by Bill Dance one time and I know a guy who knows a guy who talked with a pro who said that BPT is going under". I see the comments on here, Facebook, and Instagram and I am not seeing too many in favor of's. But hey, I am sure BPT doesn't cherry pick their numbers to provide "ratings". Swindle and Palanuik leaving spoke volumes to me.

I know your getting bombarded Mark but one more question? Lol. We all know when a guy wins an elite event the lures he won it on usually fly off the shelves, is that happening with MLF?

I get this, and it makes sense. However, as I stated before, is it really what's best for the sport? Or is it what's best for the people that don't actually care about the sport's pocketbooks? If that's the case, this "growing the sport" mentality is BS. Again, if making a convoluted system is working an getting views, how does that help the anglers in the long run? Where will they be when the big guys and networks backing all this grow it enough to make a profit and dump it. That's how most businesses work in a capitalistic system work, after all.

I guess my point is, just because something may or may not be performing, does not mean it's good or what's best. Fan or not, I don't feel as if I'm alone in this going off of the logic you are putting out. Same as you, I'm not here to argue with you as I make no money and still have my boat and family at the end of the day, but for the sake of discussion, I feel as though it should be a valid concern.

Yes Mark unless they change something that's how I read it. In there release it says it parallels the Redcrest, When I couldn't find a mention of a lake or date for the Redcrest I thought that must be the case. It should be called a replacement for the Redcrest though if that's the case, not a add on.